False advertising ?
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(06-24-2016, 05:24 PM)dkryder Wrote: it is interesting that one of the most recent threads that shows allwinner as they really are and not as you describe them is one i think you post to, the hardware acceleration thread.

First of all, "hardware acceleration" is a very broad topic. But the discussion there eventually focused on OpenGL ES drivers (which are primarily useful for playing 3D games). I'm not sure if you know this, but the Mali400 3D accelerator is not Allwinner's IP, but is licensed from ARM. And normally one would expect ARM to be providing the drivers for their part of hardware, but somehow they relay this responsibility to the SoC manufacturers. This is not the only weird thing done by ARM, for example they used to have some really strange and restrictive EULA which did not allow redistribution of the drivers.

Now back to the Allwinner's role in this story. GNU/Linux is definitely not the primary line of business for them. They are making money by selling chips to Android tablet manufacturers. Also please note that the Pine64 board is not your usual Android hardware, because it is missing a USB OTG connector and touchscreen among other things. So Android has to be adapted and such adaptation is done by another startup company Jide Technology. Neither Allwinner, nor Jide have any obligations to support the Pine64 board users just because the Pine64 board exists. That's where the Pine64 team comes into the picture. And Tl Lim from the Pine64 team is in contact with both Allwinner and Jide, trying to negotiate whatever is needed for the Pine64 board.

Quote:whats it been, a couple months or more? has allwinner resolved the issue? no.

You probably don't understand that it is not Allwinner's issue in the first place. It is not their hardware (the Mali400 IP block is licensed from ARM) and GNU/Linux with X11 desktop is also not their operating system of choice. Still they were kind enough to allocate a developer to work on this and already delivered something.

Now you may argue that this is something that the Pine64 team should have arranged beforehand and delay their kickstarter campaign until the software is in a perfect shape. However this would not fly. First of all, the Pine64 team had been very lucky to start the kickstarter campaign early enough. If they had delayed it even by a few months, then the appearance of Raspberry Pi 3 and ODROID-C2 would have surely killed the whole project. Second, it is definitely difficult to negotiate with Allwinner or Jide unless you have a product which has proven to be reasonably successful. And I really can't imagine why Allwinner would care about allocating a developer for doing some obscure job with dubious purpose.

Quote:there are others. you ask anyone you want, do your own work.

Do you realize that such claims of yours have zero credibility? If you have something else to discuss, then please bring it up in a proper way.


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False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-23-2016, 09:27 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-23-2016, 10:48 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-23-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by Ghost - 06-24-2016, 12:45 AM
False advertising ? - by bonterra - 06-24-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 02:34 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-24-2016, 06:56 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 02:49 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 08:48 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by daveculp - 06-24-2016, 07:44 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 09:03 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 01:17 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-24-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 05:24 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by NexusDude - 06-24-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by daveculp - 06-24-2016, 04:22 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by Oscar - 06-24-2016, 07:23 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 06:01 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-25-2016, 09:00 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by NexusDude - 06-25-2016, 08:21 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-25-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 11:48 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by Oscar - 06-25-2016, 12:51 PM

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