False advertising ?
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(06-23-2016, 09:27 PM)diofantos Wrote: So i've been thinking about getting one of these Pine64 2gb version .. Looking at Pine64.com they say "PINE64: WORLD’S FIRST $15" - "Supercomputer" , "Gaming machine" etc.. 
Everything looked great since I'm just looking for a SBC to run a mediacenter (basicly just run Kodi), specs tells us Pine64 is more than capable, so i started researching user experiences with Pine64, and there is where everything goes to crap , so to speak .. 
Seems to me like the problem is all software related, like no drivers for the GPU so it's pretty useless as a mediacenter, specially if you want to go 4k.. 
Another problem seems to be with shipping, there seems there are ALOT of customers unhappy with shipping.. 

So from what i can gather is that by ordering a Pine64, i will get a great useless hardware that will be delivered way too late ;Wink

So should their claims be considered False Advertising, cause it's basicly useless as a gaming machine, it's surtenly not a supercomputer, neither is it a mediaplayer ? (YET)

I add the "yet" part, cause with propper dev attention this board could be awesome.. 

Personally after a bit of research, i dont have much faith in the project right now ( and i really really really hate late shipping ) so I think i will go with a Pi 3, and revisit the Pine64 idea late fall or something to see if it's still just a useless hardware, or if they will have solved some of the current issues and sorted out their shipping department..
Away from the slap fight and back to the OP...

The "Supercomputer" claim is clearly hyperbole. The Pine64 -- a single one, by itself -- has zero potential to be a modern supercomputer. Everyone knows that, or should have. It might beat a Cray-1 from the mid-1970s. Definitely the Pine64 CPU would beat earlier supercomputers. And the Mali GPU would require another comparison.

As for the mediacenter and other claims, I'd give Pine64 a pass, for now. The Pine64 version 1.0 just came out, as a Kickstarter. It was expected to be a work in progress. Anyone familiar with technology knows that it's going to take awhile for various kinds of support to develop, including driver support. Anyone who grew angrily impatient was being irrational and/or unaware. That's putting it nicely.

Now, if the Pine64 team gives up on Linux & Android development, including Mali and bug-fixing, then yeah, the claim of false advertising would become true. Neither should the Pine64 team rely exclusively on Pine customers to do all the lifting. (I'm referring to longsleep & Lenny Raposo, who are customers, I believe.)

On a Pine 64+ 2GB without a heat sink:
On Linux (any distro, image), Kodi is abominably slow and unusable. The Ubuntu image was difficult for me to use, but I'm a Linux noob, still. I should probably try it again. Debian XFCE was clearly usable. Debian Mate was OK. Each was missing some essential components that the other had, but XFCE made it easier to fix without the terminal. Neither included any help for GPIO use, IDEs, etc., nor did I find any Pine64-specific guides to do so. Everything I found was about the RPi.

Android / RemixOS have annoying glitches. CPU/GPU heat may be part of some of those glitches. On Lenny Raposo's Pine64.pro site, I've posted a number of Android bugs that I'd been sitting on to confirm. Most of those apply to RemixOS, also.
NexusDude of Central Texas
  • Setup: Pine64+ 2GB, On/Off button, RTC battery, 5V fan, LG 1.8A power adapter, Cat6 Ethernet, HDMI to TV, USB keyboard & mouse, SanDisk Ultra mSD "32GB" (28.7GB). Using Win32DiskImager.
  • Best OS experiences: Debian XFCE >> Android Lollipop > the rest


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False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-23-2016, 09:27 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-23-2016, 10:48 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-23-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by Ghost - 06-24-2016, 12:45 AM
False advertising ? - by bonterra - 06-24-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 02:34 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 03:00 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-24-2016, 06:56 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 02:49 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 08:48 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by daveculp - 06-24-2016, 07:44 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 09:03 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 06-24-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 01:17 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-24-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-24-2016, 05:24 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by NexusDude - 06-24-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by daveculp - 06-24-2016, 04:22 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by Oscar - 06-24-2016, 07:23 PM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 06:01 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by dkryder - 06-25-2016, 09:00 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by NexusDude - 06-25-2016, 08:21 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by diofantos - 06-25-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 11:48 AM
RE: False advertising ? - by Oscar - 06-25-2016, 12:51 PM

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