Alternatives to Signal or simple signal setup methods?

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... and this also links your phone device fingerprint to your desktop signal.

what i know, there is no basis for this claim. use zbar tool or other to scan qrcode and see what is there.

however, primary client and additional client needs to be identified each other, but it is not the operating systems' codes or ids. after linking, some data moves to each linked and primary client.

For example
ts very difficult to install SIGNAL Desktop unless u scan the QR code from your phone - IE a camera is needed and this also links your phone device fingerprint to your desktop signal.

Signal could easily allow us to use an SMS or call Verification, but suspiciously, they do not.

assuming that signal and signal-desktop send some hidden data, it doesn't matter is the activation sms, call or visible qrcode, it may send that hidden data anyway. i don't think it is limited to visible qrcodes.

Has anybody else noticed SIGNAL make it very hard to install and run there app unless its on an android or IOS device?

The likely reasons for this is they are collecting fingerprint data on o devices...

For example
ts very difficult to install SIGNAL Desktop unless u scan the QR code from your phone - IE a camera is needed and this also links your phone device fingerprint to your desktop signal.

Signal could easily allow us to use an SMS or call Verification, but suspiciously, they do not.

1) Are there any other ways to setup Signal or Signal desktop without them secretly collecting our device data?
2) Any non-Signal alternatives



I managed to convince 13 of my friends to use Signal, I can easily convince them the app is compromised and get them to switch to another app.

see this https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli . it may not be good solution, but some kind of.

even i think that signal relies too much on ios and googled android. and makes things hard for other os's and ungoogled android. i may get it that being easy to install and use may bring users. but being stuck too much to the closed platforms may alienate some users as well, like me.

others criticize phone number requirement, which i think it is bad in some cases. to me, it is not so much, i wouldn't necessarily use signal with those who do not have my phone number anyway.