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Impressions and ideas - herregaarden - 10-05-2020

Greetings All

After receiving my PMOS edition(2gb,16gb) model and playing around with it for a few days i started to do some distro hopping and found what i was looking for in Mobian. It seems to be a lot more stable and the UI more smooth to use then other distros.

Below is the bugs i have found after about a month of use, further down is my "Wishlist" of features i would love to see added in the future.
And since i don't know programming, i'm hoping this reaches the Mobian Team Smile

Sometimes the menus and apps scaling is off i.e, it gets
cut off on the right side of the screen.
It seems completly random when it happens.

Weird clicking noise from speaker at random times

When entering sound settings, a high pitch whine and white noise plays.
Sometimes it stops after a few seconds and sometimes it keeps going for a long
time, it can sometimes be stopped by turning off the screen, and sometimes it keeps going.

Heat:
The phone gets very warm no matter what but when charging or transferring
files it gets almost unbearable.

Kings cross app:
Scrolling seems broken, if you run a command like dmesg and scroll
back, the screen snaps back to the start, and after trying that a few times
scrolling stops working and the cursor stops blinking, the app still works.

File transfer:
I tried to transfer some music files but for whatever reason i don't have acess to them.
When i use the "Files" app i have to enter a password when trying to enter the folders i
transferred. And no matter how many i try it does not accept the password of the phone.
This happens wether i transfer to the emmc or sd card, and after transfer some files
to SD card and plug iy back in my PC, i get an acess denied error.
Tried different cables, same result.
Transfering files to SD on pc and inserting it into the phone works.


Wishlist:
LED notifications:
Right now it blinks blue wether i received a call or a text, it would
be nice if color could be chosen based on the notification.

LED charging:
Having the LED on while charging and with color based on charge level

Screen rotation:
There only seems to be 2 options, portraite or landscape.
Could there be an option for automatic?

Being able to change theme in settings(dark mode)

Full disk encryption during first time setup

Controlling flashlight from lockscreen

Volume buttons:
It would be nice to have some feedback while pressing the buttons, both visual
and audio. And also having the popout having individual volume sliders for
alarms, phone and messaging.

Sounds:
Being able to change ring, messaging & alarm tones under settings.

Notifications dropdown:
When pressing the mobile, wifi or bt buttons it opens the settings menu.
Can there be an option that when pressing the buttons simply turn the respective
features on and off?
When pressing the beel icon, silent mode can be turned on and off.

Lollypop:
Back button in the top left corner is greyed out in many menues.
Being able to:
Browse files directy
Create a playlist from folder
Add file to playlist

Alarm:
The LED blinks blue and an alarm sounds.
I wish it would turn on the screen and be able to turn off the alarm from the lock screen.

Power:
When plugging the phone in to a pc/charger, when it's off, the phone boots up.
It would be nice to either have to option, have the phone boot up, or just have the led
come on or maybe even have a battery logo on the screen that indicates charge level.

Maps(Location services):
Even if location services is turned off, when in maps i press the current location button,
it shows my location.
This is being discussed here: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11529
Would it be possible to make it so that the location services menu can turn on and off
the different sources independently?


RE: Impressions and ideas - LinAdmin2 - 10-06-2020

(10-05-2020, 04:59 PM)herregaarden Wrote: Greetings All

After receiving my PMOS edition(2gb,16gb) model and playing around with it for a few days i started to do some distro hopping and found what i was looking for in Mobian. It seems to be a lot more stable and the UI more smooth to use then other distros.

Below is the bugs i have found after about a month of use, further down is my "Wishlist" of features i would love to see added in the future.
And since i don't know programming, i'm hoping this reaches the Mobian Team Smile

a) Sometimes the menus and apps scaling is off i.e, it gets
cut off on the right side of the screen.
It seems completly random when it happens.

b) Weird clicking noise from speaker at random times

c) When entering sound settings, a high pitch whine and white noise plays.
Sometimes it stops after a few seconds and sometimes it keeps going for a long
time, it can sometimes be stopped by turning off the screen, and sometimes it keeps going.

d) Heat:
The phone gets very warm no matter what but when charging or transferring
files it gets almost unbearable.

e) Kings cross app:
Scrolling seems broken, if you run a command like dmesg and scroll
back, the screen snaps back to the start, and after trying that a few times
scrolling stops working and the cursor stops blinking, the app still works.

f) File transfer:
I tried to transfer some music files but for whatever reason i don't have acess to them.
When i use the "Files" app i have to enter a password when trying to enter the folders i transferred. And no matter how many i try it does not accept the password of the phone.
This happens wether i transfer to the emmc or sd card, and after transfer some files to SD card and plug iy back in my PC, i get an acess denied error.
Tried different cables, same result.
Transfering files to SD on pc and inserting it into the phone works.


Wishlist:
g) LED notifications:
Right now it blinks blue wether i received a call or a text, it would
be nice if color could be chosen based on the notification.

h) LED charging:
Having the LED on while charging and with color based on charge level

i) Screen rotation:
There only seems to be 2 options, portraite or landscape.
Could there be an option for automatic?

j) Being able to change theme in settings(dark mode)

k) Full disk encryption during first time setup

l) Controlling flashlight from lockscreen

m) Volume buttons:
It would be nice to have some feedback while pressing the buttons, both visual
and audio. And also having the popout having individual volume sliders for
alarms, phone and messaging.

n) Sounds:
Being able to change ring, messaging & alarm tones under settings.

o) Notifications dropdown:
When pressing the mobile, wifi or bt buttons it opens the settings menu.
Can there be an option that when pressing the buttons simply turn the respective
features on and off?
When pressing the beel icon, silent mode can be turned on and off.

p) Lollypop:
Back button in the top left corner is greyed out in many menues.
Being able to:
Browse files directy
Create a playlist from folder
Add file to playlist

q) Alarm:
The LED blinks blue and an alarm sounds.
I wish it would turn on the screen and be able to turn off the alarm from the lock screen.

r) Power:
When plugging the phone in to a pc/charger, when it's off, the phone boots up.
It would be nice to either have to option, have the phone boot up, or just have the led come on or maybe even have a battery logo on the screen that indicates charge level.

s) Maps(Location services):
Even if location services is turned off, when in maps i press the current location button,  it shows my location.
This is being discussed here: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11529
Would it be possible to make it so that the location services menu can turn on and off the different sources independently?

Thanks for your detailed list. I can add my own experiences and ideas:

a) to c) I had seen this too, but with the recent image dated 20201005 it seems solved.

d) Heat and power consumption is a problematic issue. The latest image mentioned has improved, but there remains room for improvement.

e) I do not like the Kings cross terminal because it does not use the keyboard layout specified in general settings. I have uninstalled it and use xfce-terminal which looks OK.

f) File transfer and access using nemo is problematic. It does not allow to access shares on servers using the ordinary smb protocol.

I have used mc running on my desktop PC and opened the right pane with a ssh connection to mobian. This however requires to install before ssh on the phone. This should IMHO be part of the standard distribution.

i) Other distributions already have locked/automatic rotation and I think it is not too difficult to realize.

k) Very desirable in long term but not urgent.

n) & o) Agreed.

p) I do not use Lollypop but have installed mpv player.

Additional wishlist:

q) Remove eog because it is not well adapted to phone and use gpicview.

r) Include cifs-utils, bpsd-clients, alsa-utils and mc (without .desktop file)


RE: Impressions and ideas - natasha - 10-06-2020

Thank You guys!

I was very exited about this project. Now, I see there is a long way... thanks for your points


RE: Impressions and ideas - herregaarden - 10-06-2020

(10-06-2020, 05:50 AM)LinAdmin2 Wrote: Thanks for your detailed list. I can add my own experiences and ideas:

a) to c) I had seen this too, but with the recent image dated 20201005 it seems solved.

d) Heat and power consumption is a problematic issue. The latest image mentioned has improved, but there remains room for improvement.

e) I do not like the Kings cross terminal because it does not use the keyboard layout specified in general settings. I have uninstalled it and use xfce-terminal which looks OK.

f) File transfer and access using nemo is problematic. It does not allow to access shares on servers using the ordinary smb protocol.

I have used mc running on my desktop PC and opened the right pane with a ssh connection to mobian. This however requires to install before ssh on the phone. This should IMHO be part of the standard distribution.

i) Other distributions already have locked/automatic rotation and I think it is not too difficult to realize.

k) Very desirable in long term but not urgent.

n) & o) Agreed.

p) I do not use Lollypop but have installed mpv player.

Additional wishlist:

q) Remove eog because it is not well adapted to phone and use gpicview.

r) Include cifs-utils, bpsd-clients, alsa-utils and mc (without .desktop file)
a-c:
I flashed the newest image 20201005, and for me the problems still exist. And still completely random
https://postimg.cc/qzfRBCcG

e:
Thnx for the tip, it looks/works much better

p:
When opening MPV i just says "drop files or urls to play here", but i'm unable to drag files into the app.

q:
It might be better, but even with the scale to fit command, the scaling is still off.
https://postimg.cc/tZN1n33P
Also imagemagick is now included

Also the newest image is less stable, i have had it crash to a black screen several times and now i'm stuck on the lock screen since it wont accept my code.....
Luckily i have a backup Smile


RE: Impressions and ideas - LinAdmin2 - 10-07-2020

After more detailed view I also came to the conclusion that newest image 20201005 is not recomendable.

Re p) I have nemo configured in such a way that double clicking music and video files shall be opened by mp. Therefore I always go to nemo, select folder and then have it played. BTW: with files on a samba server this does not work.

Re q) Indeed the scaling is now broken.

Me too reverted to the previous version...