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Better WiFi/BT module? - fonix232 - 02-07-2017
Would it be possible for a 3rd party to create a better module?
I believe with the SDIO interface, it should be possible to implement a Broadcom BCM4356 (which supports SDIO v3.0 for WiFi and GPIO for BT4.0), and achieve WiFi speeds up to 867Mbps (not to mention this chip has a built-in FM receiver, which could also be used).
Also I understand that this would raise prices for such a wireless module, but for many, it would be a better choice (especially as there's no PCIe or USB3.0 port onboard). I just feel like 150Mbps is quite limited for such a versatile device.
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - mbt28 - 02-08-2017
I dont understand this sentence:
Full IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n dual-band Not Recommended for New Design compatibility with enhanced performance
What does it exactly mean?
For FM module I am not sure how to implement it to the kernel, I cant see specifications.
http://www.cypress.com/file/310241/download
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - fonix232 - 02-08-2017
(02-08-2017, 05:31 AM)mbt28 Wrote: I dont understand this sentence:
Full IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n dual-band Not Recommended for New Design compatibility with enhanced performance
What does it exactly mean?
For FM module I am not sure how to implement it to the kernel, I cant see specifications.
http://www.cypress.com/file/310241/download
To me that sentence makes very little sense too. It's pretty much Chinglish, and one that is very hard to comprehend.
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - dkryder - 02-08-2017
5Ghz does not work, so do not try it?
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - DonFL - 02-08-2017
(02-08-2017, 10:09 AM)dkryder Wrote: 5Ghz does not work, so do not try it?
Its 802.11ac capable, so it has to be a 5 ghz capable device.
Appears to be to be a typo or cut and paste error. You remove "Not recommended for new design" and the sentence then makes sense.
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - dkryder - 02-08-2017
yeah, Don, the datasheet @ the link has this
■ Full IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n legacy compatibility with enhanced
performance.
so the error on cut & paste makes sense. i was being early morning sarcastic anyway. i'll start marking my sarcastic stuff.
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - DonFL - 02-08-2017
(02-08-2017, 03:11 PM)dkryder Wrote: yeah, Don, the datasheet @ the link has this
■ Full IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n legacy compatibility with enhanced
performance.
so the error on cut & paste makes sense. i was being early morning sarcastic anyway. i'll start marking my sarcastic stuff.
I got the sense from fonix232's comment that he was truly confused, probably should have replied to his post to clarify.
I did miss your sarcasm, but don't feel that you need to mark it simply on my account, I'm barely on the forum enough anymore to make it an efficient use of your time.
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - pfeerick - 02-08-2017
(02-08-2017, 11:25 AM)DonFL Wrote:(02-08-2017, 10:09 AM)dkryder Wrote: 5Ghz does not work, so do not try it?
Its 802.11ac capable, so it has to be a 5 ghz capable device.
Appears to be to be a typo or cut and paste error. You remove "Not recommended for new design" and the sentence then makes sense.
lol... it's one of the better (hilarious) copy and paste errors I've seen recently too... as the words "Not Recommended" aren't even in the linked datasheet!!! So I don't know where that snuck in from. But yeah, its a three year old part that looks pretty sweet as it does 5Ghz, 2.4Ghz, and Bluetooth 4.1/EDR. Would certainly be a nice upgrade for the pine64 wifi with the speced 867 Mbps data rate (which it would naturally only achieve in the lab under ideal conditions. Maybe worth considering as a 5Ghz wifi option?
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - fonix232 - 02-09-2017
(02-08-2017, 09:28 PM)pfeerick Wrote: lol... it's one of the better (hilarious) copy and paste errors I've seen recently too... as the words "Not Recommended" aren't even in the linked datasheet!!! So I don't know where that snuck in from. But yeah, its a three year old part that looks pretty sweet as it does 5Ghz, 2.4Ghz, and Bluetooth 4.1/EDR. Would certainly be a nice upgrade for the pine64 wifi with the speced 867 Mbps data rate (which it would naturally only achieve in the lab under ideal conditions. Maybe worth considering as a 5Ghz wifi option?
That's my point - 5GHz WiFi is becoming more widespread, and the limited 150Mbps is becoming slow enough that soon it can't even stream 1080p videos, not to mention 4K...
RE: Better WiFi/BT module? - DonFL - 02-09-2017
(02-09-2017, 06:05 AM)fonix232 Wrote:(02-08-2017, 09:28 PM)pfeerick Wrote: lol... it's one of the better (hilarious) copy and paste errors I've seen recently too... as the words "Not Recommended" aren't even in the linked datasheet!!! So I don't know where that snuck in from. But yeah, its a three year old part that looks pretty sweet as it does 5Ghz, 2.4Ghz, and Bluetooth 4.1/EDR. Would certainly be a nice upgrade for the pine64 wifi with the speced 867 Mbps data rate (which it would naturally only achieve in the lab under ideal conditions. Maybe worth considering as a 5Ghz wifi option?
That's my point - 5GHz WiFi is becoming more widespread, and the limited 150Mbps is becoming slow enough that soon it can't even stream 1080p videos, not to mention 4K...
Its all 5 ghz (and beyond...) moving forward from a wifi standards perspective; 2.4 is, essentially, at end of life, b/g/n and thats it.