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Wake up Call - walter1950 - 11-02-2025
Hello,
https://medium.com/@mathias-steiner/mobile-linux-why-its-time-hasnt-come-yet-469dd60aee42
Ciao
Walter
RE: Wake up Call - Zebulon Walton - 11-02-2025
Interesting article, but I for one actually have no problem with the limitations of Linux (in my case Mobian) running on the Pinephone. In fact I regard some of those limitations - like no support for the garbage "apps" that most Android and iPhone users seem to love - as desirable features. I actually get a perverse enjoyment telling people "Sorry, I can't run your app, I don't have an Android phone or iPhone. Does your app come in a Linux version?" Blank stares generally follow. Very satisfying.
Rather than having any interest in the features and mis-features offered by the major smartphone platforms it's much more important to me to have a phone under my own control that is not spying on me and is really off when I turn it off, which is most of the time.
Then again, I don't keep my life on my phone. I don't need it for internet access. I don't care about its cameras. I only use the phone to make and receive telephone calls.
RE: Wake up Call - biketool - 11-03-2025
(11-02-2025, 12:37 PM)walter1950 Wrote: Hello,
https://medium.com/@mathias-steiner/mobile-linux-why-its-time-hasnt-come-yet-469dd60aee42
Ciao
Walter
The problem is we keep reinventing the wheel for mobile Linux. We had a reasonably well designed qt UI for the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 back in Y2K. As mentioned in the article Jolla is using a 20-25 years of development from the Nokia Linux labs which started with the first Nokia N-series 'tablets' through t the N900 and N9 before Microsoft and Elop burned the platform down with only Jolla and the Sailfish devices surviving. Much of the problem has been hybrid FOSS base with many proprietary UI add-ons.
RE: Wake up Call - Kevin Kofler - 11-03-2025
That article is just a pointless rant. Half of the issues are due to the chosen device, the FuriPhone FLX1 (both because of technical choices, e.g., no Plasma Mobile available because it is a Halium device (and Plasma Mobile would come closer to the author's UI expectations than Phosh in several places), and because of issues in custom FuriLabs applications, e.g., the FuriOS Gallery app), the other half due to the ineptitude of the user (e.g., I do not believe the author has tried to install the mobile Qt applications, except for Telegram Desktop, from the Debian repositories rather than from Flathub).
On a phone with a working Plasma Mobile setup, with Angelfish as the browser, Plasma Photos (Koko) as the gallery, etc., the author would have experienced none of the issues mentioned in the article.