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'standard' Debian on Pinephone? - 4920441 - 12-20-2022
Hi,
I would like to install a standard debian bullseye on my pinephone - no phone like options needed...
I have the Keyboard wich assembles together with the pinephone to a "small sized" laptop, or better palmtop computer so I'd like to use it that way :-)
Taking Mobian and strip everything down is not the route I would prefer to take.
Any hints if someone already did that?
Thanks a lot!
Cheers
4920441
RE: 'standard' Debian on Pinephone? - treebeard - 12-20-2022
I haven't heard of anyone attempting that. At the very least, I think a mainline kernel will not work (yet?). I assume also that grub is a no-go, hence the use of u-boot and tow-boot. u-boot is in the repository but I don't know if the installer will install it.
For what it's worth, even with mobian, most packages come from the debian repos. The mobian repo has a higher priority so if a package needed patches to accomodate the mobile form-factor or whatever, then it would come from mobian until the patches could be merged upstream. Mobian bullseye had many (a couple hundred?) packages patched thusly Mobian bookworm is down to a couple dozen, I think. The goal is to get everything upstreamed into mainline debian. I can't think of any reason to avoid mobian.
RE: 'standard' Debian on Pinephone? - 4920441 - 12-28-2022
(12-20-2022, 09:34 PM)treebeard Wrote: I haven't heard of anyone attempting that. At the very least, I think a mainline kernel will not work (yet?). I assume also that grub is a no-go, hence the use of u-boot and tow-boot. u-boot is in the repository but I don't know if the installer will install it.
For what it's worth, even with mobian, most packages come from the debian repos. The mobian repo has a higher priority so if a package needed patches to accomodate the mobile form-factor or whatever, then it would come from mobian until the patches could be merged upstream. Mobian bullseye had many (a couple hundred?) packages patched thusly Mobian bookworm is down to a couple dozen, I think. The goal is to get everything upstreamed into mainline debian. I can't think of any reason to avoid mobian.
Do you have an Idea which packets need to be uninstalled that you dont have the phone stuff omnipresent?
If it boots straight into a shell, that would be a good starting point.
Last time I tried to strip down mobian, there were way to many packages which were dependend on eachother, so it was a p* in the ass to remove all that - thats the reason to not use mobian for that purpose (-:
Cheers
4920441
RE: 'standard' Debian on Pinephone? - zetabeta - 12-28-2022
(12-28-2022, 09:07 AM)4920441 Wrote: Do you have an Idea which packets need to be uninstalled that you dont have the phone stuff omnipresent?
If it boots straight into a shell, that would be a good starting point.
Last time I tried to strip down mobian, there were way to many packages which were dependend on eachother, so it was a p* in the ass to remove all that - thats the reason to not use mobian for that purpose (-:
Cheers
4920441
i'm going to give some kind inaccurate answer, but maybe i test this on one of my devices.
i think this a time i seriously suggest "aptitude", which is installation program and gives information about packages. of course, "ssh", "screen", ssh server and "tui". you should know what "manual" and "automatic" mark means in apt system.
install mobian either prebuilt image or installer. definitely keep "pinephone-support", which depends on 6.1 kernel. you could uninstall "mobian-phosh" and similar packages. you may need/want to uninstall "greetd". and choose windows manager of your choice. keep in mind that you need login screen, maybe sddm (greetd is some kind of login manager).
however, you may not need to uninstall phosh. just set another user interface (or choose). if you install like xfce4, just login with xfce4. still, different login manager might be required.
(12-28-2022, 09:07 AM)4920441 Wrote: If it boots straight into a shell, that would be a good starting point.
without unistalling anything, you could use multi-user.target, which does not start graphical system.
Code:
# assuming root, use sudo if no root
# get defaut
systemctl get-default
# set multi-user
systemctl set-default multi-user.target
# set back to graphical
systemctl set-default graphical.target