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PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - hockleyj - 05-23-2022
Just wanted to add some information for those that are looking to delve into the phone lapdock realm. As many have asked about does it work for PinePhone Pro. and had many mixed reports of usb-c docks work and not work and Nexdock and Uperfect lapdock owners asking does it work and seeing it mostly not work etc...
the following is the current state i have working.... noting that things are fluid with rolling distro's so it may break for a while in the future.... but usually it only gets better....
I am using the DanctNix arch plasma for pinephone pro then updated to the latest...
data from information panel on plasma:
Operating System: Arch Linux ARM
KDE Plasma Version: 5.24.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.94.0
Qt Version: 5.15.4
Kernel Version: 5.17.6-1-danctnix
OS-Type: 64
Processor: 4 × ARM Cortex-A53, 2 × ARM Cortex-A72
Memory: 3.8 GiB
for the lapdock i am using the Uperfect X lapdock its practically the nexdock 360 minus one usbc port. the cables that came with the lapdock are from ugreen.
and the biggest thing is that cable orientation matters.... so once i got the cables at each end in an orientation that worked. i added a simple dab of nail polish. as to reduce future setup frustrations...
I also tried a Satechi brand short cable and it worked as well but only when the satechi logo is facing "out/towards the user"...
also i found that if things were not looking right after plugging in the cables pressing the power button quickly to lock the phone, then entering back in via the login screen usually fixed things.... for the most part i did not have to play with screen display settings just let plasma work it out..
like all things on the pinephone pro its beta...
I will update this post with images soon also this setup works even when the Pine Keyboard is attached to the PPP... but power drain is still a thing so until charging works better it appears even if plugged int still drains down ever slowly 10-20% per hour whilst using it.....
regarding the default image that comes with the PPP as it is Manjaro KDE... even in its most up to date form as in a good old pacman -Syu ... using the default package stream etc... it does not work for me in this phone lapdock setup..... thats not to say that if you switch to testing repo or even get a different beta image from the manjaro forums that it might work..... im just not into that.... i think the whole walled garden thing of manjaro at least in regards to pinephone pro simply slows down and over complicates the what works on PPP during its very beta existence..... as for Phosh i have had no luck with it so far in relation to Lapdock setup... though i remain hopefull as i would like to use both to see the merits of both via my setup....
before playing with other distro's id advise to get a working setup as a base line so when you delve into other Os's then you at least know that your setup works... even though that is easier said then done.....
RE: PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - hockleyj - 05-25-2022
Just a further observation. in relation to once you get it working then you shutdown then want to set it back up again... i found it can be a bit of an art .... essentially if i run into any issue getting the lapdock to detect the signal / send one to the pinphone.... i usually find it comes down to having the phone at the lock screen "number pad" then i plug the cable in enter the lock screen code and wait to see if all is good. if it is not, then i change the cable orientation and rinse repeat usually within 2-3 tries ...
in reading through the pinebook forum for those that used external monitors it seems to be a thing that is experienced... from what i can gather, each device is setting which lane it is setting usb on and alt DP on and that can be the opposite between the devices, hence the changing the orientation of the cable until they are using the same lane etc.... it gets a little confusing because usb-c isnt meant to have superposition issues but the reality is different....
KDE could also do a better job on its side "how it detects and reacts to external monitor input" especially after more then one plugin event during the same session (as would happen when working out cable orientation) but that usually isn't the problem but would be "icing on the cake"
As for why the drivers do not do a better job of detecting and changing i do not know.... maybe someone with the skills can come up with a widget that allows for a software switch for alt dp orientation for the output port....
RE: PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - hockleyj - 05-25-2022
to also make things a little easier, for those using docks / SSH or lapdocks if you find the device goes into suspend mode while its attached to power.... there is a widget that might work for you.
sourced from https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=12909
I happened to long-press the desktop, and "Add Widgets" appeared
I pressed this, and tried adding the "Display Configuration" widget.
It had something called "Enable Presentation Mode", which I tried.
if instead your looking to change the timings then JasonG-FR in a post in the above mentioned thread explains what to change in the ~/.config/powermanagementprofilesrc file...
RE: PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - u-kidjp - 05-26-2022
Thanks for the great information.
I have the same lapdock, Uperfect X. I tried the latest DanctNix arch plasma and after trying several cable orientations, I confirmed the video output.
Unfortunately, I cannot get keyboard and mouse input. Do you get HID input?
RE: PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - u-kidjp - 05-27-2022
Hi, I tried different cable and I got keyboard and touch-pad inputs correctly. It's nice!.
And I have two other lapdocks, HP's (optional device for Windows 10 mobile device,Elite x3) and Mirabook.
Mirabook dose not work, but HP's lapdock also works fine.
Only problem is tapping on the touch pad is not recognized as left button.
RE: PinePhone Pro working on Lapdock using Arch Plasma - hockleyj - 05-27-2022
(05-27-2022, 02:05 AM)u-kidjp Wrote: Hi, I tried different cable and I got keyboard and touch-pad inputs correctly. It's nice!.
And I have two other lapdocks, HP's (optional device for Windows 10 mobile device,Elite x3) and Mirabook.
Mirabook dose not work, but HP's lapdock also works fine.
Only problem is tapping on the touch pad is not recognized as left button.
Yea keyboard works... but it really comes down to doing a magic dance with cables and orientations.... essentially many protocols on usb lanes and its a bit of a lottery on how they land.... a bit like musical chairs.... i hope someone with dev skills might put a widget together to help in the future...
I turn the touch pad off and use a logitech anywhere mouse... once i can get waydroid working better as in gpu support without high idle cpu usage etc... then it will be a good phone and desktop like setup.... the waydroid part is only for things like banking apps and things that simply have no linux good equivalent...
but overall its getting closer to the One device to rule them all scenario id like to see....