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e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - ideograph - 08-25-2021
I currently use a rooted hisense a5, which is an epaper phone about the same size as the pinephone. it is probably the best size for reading epubs, is very convenient to carry, and a large screen is not necessary for basic note taking and reading consumption tasks. However, using a touch screen keyboard is a pain.
I am extremely excited for the pine phone keyboard, as I think it is going to make a useful note taking device, but an epaper screen would be the ideal pair in my opinion.
Is there any chance, thought, or interest in a much smaller epaper device than the new pinenote? I find the large screens, especially 10 inches, to be overkill in most situations, and the only feature missing from my epaper phone is a hardware keyboard.
excited for there finally to be an open epaper device!
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - barray - 08-25-2021
This is the sort of thing I hope from the PineCom: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11772
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - ideograph - 08-26-2021
(08-25-2021, 10:34 PM)barray Wrote: This is the sort of thing I hope from the PineCom: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11772
Very interesting, thank you for the link, I had not seen this previously. I wonder why they are pursuing an entirely new form factor for the pinecom, when a paired down pinephone would satisfy all the requirements, and be able to use the pinephone peripherals.
I posted it on that thread, but you may be interested in the Precursor device coming out later this year, a super secure black and white low power mobile device with hardware keyboard, https://betrusted.io/ .
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - barray - 08-27-2021
(08-26-2021, 09:43 AM)ideograph Wrote: Very interesting, thank you for the link, I had not seen this previously. I wonder why they are pursuing an entirely new form factor for the pinecom, when a paired down pinephone would satisfy all the requirements, and be able to use the pinephone peripherals.
My impression is that it would essentially be a 'dumb' PinePhone at $100 or less, with LoRa and possibly the BL602. I *really* want to know more about this device - I yearn for a modern PDA device so much.
(08-26-2021, 09:43 AM)ideograph Wrote: I posted it on that thread, but you may be interested in the Precursor device coming out later this year, a super secure black and white low power mobile device with hardware keyboard, https://betrusted.io/ .
I saw that and like it, but I suspect such a bespoke device will have a very bespoke price tag. I assume it will either have cellular or WiFi - both of which typically have closed-source firmwares and have been exploited recently.
Using an FPGA as a CPU is super interesting idea though, I hope it sees some support. For now it is hard enough to even get full hardware support for normal ARM CPUs in the Linux kernel, and these are mass-produced devices!
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - mil - 08-29-2021
I too think an eink pinephone sized device would be great. If the Pinecom turns out to be eink-based that would be fantastic. Even better if one day we have a true eink Pinephone.
Currently I use an M5Paper for some things, which is probably the most hacker-friendly eink 'handheld':
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5paper-esp32-development-kit-960x540-4-7-eink-display-235-ppi
But alas this doesn't run linux and is just a micro so you have to program with C.
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - barray - 08-29-2021
(08-29-2021, 10:37 AM)mil Wrote: Currently I use an M5Paper for some things, which is probably the most hacker-friendly eink 'handheld':
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5paper-esp32-development-kit-960x540-4-7-eink-display-235-ppi
But alas this doesn't run linux and is just a micro so you have to program with C.
I'm really bummed I missed out on the m5 paper. They've been out of stock for so long and don't look like they are coming back ever again. I remember somebody in IRC telling me to pick one up, but I held out for some reason and regretted it.
As you say though, it would be a lot more capable if it could run Linux. But I would settle for a BL602 driven e-ink device too.
Long live the PDA!
RE: e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote? - darnel - 09-20-2021
(08-29-2021, 10:59 PM)barray Wrote:(08-29-2021, 10:37 AM)mil Wrote: Currently I use an M5Paper for some things, which is probably the most hacker-friendly eink 'handheld':
https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5paper-esp32-development-kit-960x540-4-7-eink-display-235-ppi
But alas this doesn't run linux and is just a micro so you have to program with C.
I'm really bummed I missed out on the m5 paper. They've been out of stock for so long and don't look like they are coming back ever again. I remember somebody in IRC telling me to pick one up, but I held out for some reason and regretted it.
As you say though, it would be a lot more capable if it could run Linux. But I would settle for a BL602 driven e-ink device too.
Long live the PDA!
Maybe I'm cpt. Obvious, but you can get newer version.