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How well will this UI work for desktop? - jcun4128 - 01-23-2021
Looking at the demo videos/docs/guide it seems like this is mainly intended to be used for mobile.
If I wanted to use it while docked/as if it was i3-wm how far will I get? Will I need to do stuff like use xrandr to show/position the external monitor?
I did figure out how to properly flash the images onto the SD card so it actually boots/isn't skipped.
But I figured I'd ask before I got into it.
Thanks for any thoughts.
edit: Oh and I was curious about the idle RAM usage. Mobian is surprisingly not as bad as I thought eg. I saw a number just over 500MB. Is Sxmo significantly lower than that? I got a 170MB figure nice.
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - Peter Gamma - 01-23-2021
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBeza4UNOm8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIWh2cX3nQ
I recommend this keyboard:
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and this mouse:
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I use this keyboard and this mouse on an Android phone since years, and I am completely happy with those.
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - jcun4128 - 01-23-2021
Thanks for the links/recommendation.
I was particularly interested in the Sxmo tiling interface, I was wondering if anyone used that much in desktop mode.
I'm going to try it now before I settle on a particular OS for a bit.
Maybe I'm not understanding like how you go from the PostmarketOS to Sxmo.
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - ludix - 01-23-2021
(01-23-2021, 12:33 PM)jcun4128 Wrote: Maybe I'm not understanding like how you go from the PostmarketOS to Sxmo.
Sorry, can't help with your desktop question at the moment. But with this.
Sxmo is a GUI. I think it also works on Mobian.
On pmOS switching the GUI is easy. You have to do this via USB tty.
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/User-Interfaces#Once_installed
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - jcun4128 - 01-23-2021
It's alright I did try it. I think there's some known issue about certain monitors not working with xrandr? For me it just said disconnected and I couldn't get it to turn on.
Anyway with Mobian the monitor turned on as soon as I plugged it into the dock.
I don't know the RAM savings is nice eg. runs at 150MB at idle from what I saw. I'm pretty sure there's no cursor because on the login prompt I could barely tell what field I was in/also tab didn't work/had to push enter to get into the password field.
But yeah I know complain complain words are cheap, I don't know how to develop this stuff should be grateful.
For now I'm back to Mobian but in general I don't have much of a use for this phone, I was trying it out for the future mobile docking compute... Samsung kinda tried this with DeX. But I wasn't going to drop $2K on a phone.
edit: yeah that is one thing I'm not getting right is my terminology. I should say I went back to Phosh.
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - hiimtye - 01-23-2021
sxmo uses dwm which is intended for desktops, and happens to also be perfect for mobile
RE: How well will this UI work for desktop? - MungFuSensei - 01-24-2021
(01-23-2021, 02:29 PM)jcun4128 Wrote: It's alright I did try it. I think there's some known issue about certain monitors not working with xrandr? For me it just said disconnected and I couldn't get it to turn on.
Anyway with Mobian the monitor turned on as soon as I plugged it into the dock.
I don't know the RAM savings is nice eg. runs at 150MB at idle from what I saw. I'm pretty sure there's no cursor because on the login prompt I could barely tell what field I was in/also tab didn't work/had to push enter to get into the password field.
But yeah I know complain complain words are cheap, I don't know how to develop this stuff should be grateful.
For now I'm back to Mobian but in general I don't have much of a use for this phone, I was trying it out for the future mobile docking compute... Samsung kinda tried this with DeX. But I wasn't going to drop $2K on a phone.
edit: yeah that is one thing I'm not getting right is my terminology. I should say I went back to Phosh.
Read the xrandr manpage. Something like:
Code:
xrandr --output YOUROUTPUTHERE --autoOr try booting the phone with the display connected? Been a while since I messed around with secondary displays.