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Server Oriented Card - JigenEagle - 01-16-2016

Hello, I have been following this project and absolutely love what you have been doing.

I've been looking into DIY cheap server design and was comparing Pine64 against my other options as a good candidate.
The variations of the card all do a good job of catering to well-rounded software development (e.g. mobile, video, and touch).

I was wondering if you ever considered a card variation oriented towards low graphics, high cpu/memory usage?
2-4GB RAM, Ethernet, expansions, and basic video (My server box doesn't need 4K video  Angel ). Things for doing renderings, crunching calculations, running dedicated servers.

I know these generally are made to cater towards wide audiences, but it's just a thought I've been turning in my head as someone who has worked with server stacks.
Or is this a case where I should simply use the Pine64+2GB and just not utilize the extra features?

Many Thanks,
Jigen


RE: Server Oriented Card - tllim - 01-16-2016

(01-16-2016, 05:58 PM)JigenEagle Wrote: Hello, I have been following this project and absolutely love what you have been doing.

I've been looking into DIY cheap server design and was comparing Pine64 against my other options as a good candidate.
The variations of the card all do a good job of catering to well-rounded software development (e.g. mobile, video, and touch).

I was wondering if you ever considered a card variation oriented towards low graphics, high cpu/memory usage?
2-4GB RAM, Ethernet, expansions, and basic video (My server box doesn't need 4K video  Angel ). Things for doing renderings, crunching calculations, running dedicated servers.

I know these generally are made to cater towards wide audiences, but it's just a thought I've been turning in my head as someone who has worked with server stacks.
Or is this a case where I should simply use the Pine64+2GB and just not utilize the extra features?

Many Thanks,
Jigen

Hi Jigen, We are observing the headless server market, and can release a new board to serve this market when we have enough inputs. For the Allwinner A64, the maximum DRAM capacity is 3GB.


RE: Server Oriented Card - JigenEagle - 01-17-2016

(01-16-2016, 07:28 PM)tllim Wrote: Hi Jigen, We are observing the headless server market, and can release a new board to serve this market when we have enough inputs. For the Allwinner A64, the maximum DRAM capacity is 3GB.

Hearing that alone makes me very happy! And thank you for the specification. I look forward to seeing this product evolve in today's market.


RE: Server Oriented Card - tllim - 01-17-2016

(01-17-2016, 03:39 AM)JigenEagle Wrote:
(01-16-2016, 07:28 PM)tllim Wrote: Hi Jigen, We are observing the headless server market, and can release a new board to serve this market when we have enough inputs. For the Allwinner A64, the maximum DRAM capacity is 3GB.

Hearing that alone makes me very happy! And thank you for the specification. I look forward to seeing this product evolve in today's market.

For server oriented board, here is our thought and open for discussion.

- 1. Support PoE
- 2. Due to PoE circuit occupied significant board space, we will take out all circuit and ports related to HDMI, DSI-LCD Mipi, touch panel, and CSI-Camera.
- 3. Explore with Allwinner on industrial grade A64 SoC
- 4. On board eMMC flash support
- 5. Will only release 2GB SDRAM version and explore into 3GB possibility


RE: Server Oriented Card - umiddelb - 01-17-2016

(01-17-2016, 01:03 PM)tllim Wrote:
(01-17-2016, 03:39 AM)JigenEagle Wrote:
(01-16-2016, 07:28 PM)tllim Wrote: Hi Jigen, We are observing the headless server market, and can release a new board to serve this market when we have enough inputs. For the Allwinner A64, the maximum DRAM capacity is 3GB.

Hearing that alone makes me very happy! And thank you for the specification. I look forward to seeing this product evolve in today's market.

For server oriented board, here is our thought and open for discussion.

- 1. Support PoE
- 2. Due to PoE circuit occupied significant board space, we will take out all circuit and ports related to HDMI, DSI-LCD Mipi, touch panel, and CSI-Camera.
- 3. Explore with Allwinner on industrial grade A64 SoC
- 4. On board eMMC flash support
- 5. Will only release 2GB SDRAM version and explore into 3GB possibility
  - 6. mSATA
  - 7. USB 3 
  - 8. pin header for all UARTs


RE: Server Oriented Card - tllim - 01-17-2016

the Allwinner A64 SoC doesn't have build in Sata and USB 3.0 port. We can build the mSATA port from USB bus but limit to USM 2.0 bus speed.


RE: Server Oriented Card - umiddelb - 01-18-2016

(01-17-2016, 04:24 PM)tllim Wrote: the Allwinner A64 SoC doesn't have build in Sata and USB 3.0 port. We can build the mSATA port from USB bus but limit to USM 2.0 bus speed.

If the bridge supports UAS this could be an option. You might connect it to the USB line used to support the OTG port (I don't need OTG either), so that the bridge could make use of the full USB bandwidth exclusively.


RE: Server Oriented Card - tllim - 01-18-2016

(01-17-2016, 02:03 PM)umiddelb Wrote:
(01-17-2016, 01:03 PM)tllim Wrote:
(01-17-2016, 03:39 AM)JigenEagle Wrote:
(01-16-2016, 07:28 PM)tllim Wrote: Hi Jigen, We are observing the headless server market, and can release a new board to serve this market when we have enough inputs. For the Allwinner A64, the maximum DRAM capacity is 3GB.

Hearing that alone makes me very happy! And thank you for the specification. I look forward to seeing this product evolve in today's market.

For server oriented board, here is our thought and open for discussion.

- 1. Support PoE
- 2. Due to PoE circuit occupied significant board space, we will take out all circuit and ports related to HDMI, DSI-LCD Mipi, touch panel, and CSI-Camera.
- 3. Explore with Allwinner on industrial grade A64 SoC
- 4. On board eMMC flash support
- 5. Will only release 2GB SDRAM version and explore into 3GB possibility
  - 6. mSATA
  - 7. USB 3 
  - 8. pin header for all UARTs

(01-18-2016, 12:09 AM)umiddelb Wrote:
(01-17-2016, 04:24 PM)tllim Wrote: the Allwinner A64 SoC doesn't have build in Sata and USB 3.0 port. We can build the mSATA port from USB bus but limit to USM 2.0 bus speed.

If the bridge supports UAS this could be an option. You might connect it to the USB line used to support the OTG port (I don't need OTG either), so that the bridge could make use of the full USB bandwidth exclusively.
Thanks on the tips and we will check on the UAS.


RE: Server Oriented Card - Groupers - 01-20-2016

What about socketed emmc to support expanding the storage?


RE: Server Oriented Card - hazerty - 01-20-2016

The Pine A64 board designs for microSD card booting and some eMMC pins already allocated for IO expansion purpose
You can't use emmc on the board yet. But for the next board for server use, you can use emmc port.