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RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - rocket2nfinity - 10-30-2020
(10-30-2020, 12:33 AM)desca Wrote:https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/23/image-1.png(10-29-2020, 09:53 PM)rocket2nfinity Wrote:(10-29-2020, 12:28 PM)desca Wrote: I thought I’d seen T-Mobile a few months ago talking about wanting to drop 2G/3G at the end of 2020? Did they announce pushing it out a little bit?Quite the opposite. Current press release now says Jan 1 2021. Hadn't seen the update. They just keep pushing that date forward...
Where was the press release? I was never able to find anything making it official.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/07/25/t-mobile-will-soon-require-volte-on-all-phones-incomopatible-devices-kicked-off-january/#ap-lightbox
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - desca - 10-30-2020
(10-30-2020, 02:18 AM)rocket2nfinity Wrote:(10-30-2020, 12:33 AM)desca Wrote:https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/23/image-1.png(10-29-2020, 09:53 PM)rocket2nfinity Wrote:(10-29-2020, 12:28 PM)desca Wrote: I thought I’d seen T-Mobile a few months ago talking about wanting to drop 2G/3G at the end of 2020? Did they announce pushing it out a little bit?Quite the opposite. Current press release now says Jan 1 2021. Hadn't seen the update. They just keep pushing that date forward...
Where was the press release? I was never able to find anything making it official.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/07/25/t-mobile-will-soon-require-volte-on-all-phones-incomopatible-devices-kicked-off-january/#ap-lightbox
Ah, the not-denied leak… Interesting where they said they’d starting texting people with old phones to warn them soon, as I’ve not heard of that happening yet and October’s nearly over.
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - Ritch1 - 11-03-2020
I received my Pinephone Manjor CE today. As with other folks, no software on phone. Flashed Manjaro to an SDX card. Picked up a bring your own phone prepaid Simkit and activated. I can now send and receive chats. However, when I try to make a phone call, it tells me that number is not authorized on this line, regardless of the number I call.
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - brom - 11-04-2020
I've been having trouble connecting my PinePhone (Manjaro) to my AT&T service (4G, Eastern US). A summary of my experiences (currently running Arch, but there was no real difference from Manjaro)...
Using mmcli's --simple-connect option (together with journalctl) shows that the connection almost works, but seems to get rejected eventually (I even see the 4G icon -- the phone is definitely aware of the network), usually with the QMI error "CallFailed".
I tried registering a new sim card in an online form with AT&T, but the web page reports something like "Device Not Found" when I enter my IMEI.
In talking to an AT&T tech for a little while, he suggested that he could manually enter the IMEI. While exploring this option, he noticed that AT&T seems to consider the Quectel Modem (model EG25-G, at least) to be an "internet only" (or "data only") device, that AT&T wouldn't support phone calls and SMS messages on it, and this might be the source of the problem. I didn't want to mess up my existing line, so we ended up not trying the manual IMEI registration.
Disappointing, but maybe informative. Has anyone had a similar experience?
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - rocket2nfinity - 11-05-2020
(11-04-2020, 03:29 PM)brom Wrote: I've been having trouble connecting my PinePhone (Manjaro) to my AT&T service (4G, Eastern US). A summary of my experiences (currently running Arch, but there was no real difference from Manjaro)...AT&T is using whitelists to determine who gets what access to their network. The Pinephone does support VoLTE. So your best bet would be to use an MVNO that doesn't care and register an android or iphone with the sim if submitting an IMEI is required, then putting that sim in the pinephone.
Using mmcli's --simple-connect option (together with journalctl) shows that the connection almost works, but seems to get rejected eventually (I even see the 4G icon -- the phone is definitely aware of the network), usually with the QMI error "CallFailed".
I tried registering a new sim card in an online form with AT&T, but the web page reports something like "Device Not Found" when I enter my IMEI.
In talking to an AT&T tech for a little while, he suggested that he could manually enter the IMEI. While exploring this option, he noticed that AT&T seems to consider the Quectel Modem (model EG25-G, at least) to be an "internet only" (or "data only") device, that AT&T wouldn't support phone calls and SMS messages on it, and this might be the source of the problem. I didn't want to mess up my existing line, so we ended up not trying the manual IMEI registration.
Disappointing, but maybe informative. Has anyone had a similar experience?
Adjusting APN settings may also fix the problem.
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - marcih - 11-13-2020
(10-22-2020, 02:29 AM)marcih Wrote: I don't have my PinePhone yet, I'll be sure to post my experiences with multiple different European carriers when I do. In the meantime, how is roaming? I don't know if this applies to the US but in Europe, every time you travel abroad, you roam to a visitor network. Does anyone have any experience with this?I'll answer my own question in case somebody from Europe comes across this thread: there don't seem to be any issues with roaming in Europe. I'm currently using a Vodafone CZ SIM card connected to the "vodafone NL" 2G network, texts and calls to and from both CZ and NL numbers from a variety of carriers work fine, the phone wakes up immediately and gives me the notification and UI for picking up the call respectively. I've also tested connection to the 4G network (haven't tested calls and texts on it though) but I have not tested cellular data. I'll also try a native Dutch carrier but I'm not expecting any issues.
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - calinb - 11-13-2020
(11-04-2020, 03:29 PM)brom Wrote: I've been having trouble connecting my PinePhone (Manjaro) to my AT&T service (4G, Eastern US). A summary of my experiences (currently running Arch, but there was no real difference from Manjaro)...I have an Inland Cellular SIM card. Inland is NOT an MVNO and Inland owns the only towers and provides the only cellular service in my part of rural Idaho, US.
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In talking to an AT&T tech for a little while, he suggested that he could manually enter the IMEI. While exploring this option, he noticed that AT&T seems to consider the Quectel Modem (model EG25-G, at least) to be an "internet only" (or "data only") device, that AT&T wouldn't support phone calls and SMS messages on it, and this might be the source of the problem. I didn't want to mess up my existing line, so we ended up not trying the manual IMEI registration.
Disappointing, but maybe informative. Has anyone had a similar experience?
My PinePhone receives an Inland 4G signal and Internet data works, but voice and SMS text are completely non-functional (inbound and outbound). I really wanted PinePhone to work and I'm very disappointed. (I will give up mobile phones entirely rather than use a spy phone, even though the telecom networks still spy on those of us with PinePhones anyway.)
I also tried an old, no longer subscribed Verizon SIM card some miles away where Verizon towers are visible. It too produced a good 4G signal bar indication, but I have no idea whether or not Verizon would work because the subscription has expired.
I posted more details here: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=12147
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - rocket2nfinity - 11-13-2020
(11-13-2020, 02:06 PM)calinb Wrote:Several people have gotten verizon to work completely including calls in multiple forum threads.(11-04-2020, 03:29 PM)brom Wrote: I've been having trouble connecting my PinePhone (Manjaro) to my AT&T service (4G, Eastern US). A summary of my experiences (currently running Arch, but there was no real difference from Manjaro)...I have an Inland Cellular SIM card. Inland is NOT an MVNO and Inland owns the only towers and provides the only cellular service in my part of rural Idaho, US.
<SNIP>
In talking to an AT&T tech for a little while, he suggested that he could manually enter the IMEI. While exploring this option, he noticed that AT&T seems to consider the Quectel Modem (model EG25-G, at least) to be an "internet only" (or "data only") device, that AT&T wouldn't support phone calls and SMS messages on it, and this might be the source of the problem. I didn't want to mess up my existing line, so we ended up not trying the manual IMEI registration.
Disappointing, but maybe informative. Has anyone had a similar experience?
My PinePhone receives an Inland 4G signal and Internet data works, but voice and SMS text are completely non-functional (inbound and outbound). I really wanted PinePhone to work and I'm very disappointed. (I will give up mobile phones entirely rather than use a spy phone, even though the telecom networks still spy on those of us with PinePhones anyway.)
I also tried an old, no longer subscribed Verizon SIM card some miles away where Verizon towers are visible. It too produced a good 4G signal bar indication, but I have no idea whether or not Verizon would work because the subscription has expired.
I posted more details here: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=12147
Need more details about Inland to troubleshoot. Are they gsm, cdma, or 4g LTE only?
Edit: See your other thread
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - bcnaz - 11-14-2020
One forum member mentioned going to the Verizon store,
the clerk there activated a sim card for him,
using a in store 'junk' phone to activate the card.
That worked for him, but I don't know if every
Verizon store would offer that service.?
another suggested "buying a cheap iphone to activate the sim card"
but that sounds expensive to me ?
RE: Sim cards and carriers, discussion - calinb - 11-14-2020
(11-14-2020, 05:38 PM)bcnaz Wrote: One forum member mentioned going to the Verizon store,rocket2nfinity got me straightened out in my other thread (https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=12147).
the clerk there activated a sim card for him,
using a in store 'junk' phone to activate the card.
That worked for him, but I don't know if every
Verizon store would offer that service.?
another suggested "buying a cheap iphone to activate the sim card"
but that sounds expensive to me ?
I've never had such great service from Verizon, but my local Inland Cellular store loaned me an entire phone so I could check signal indications, APN settings, etc., and move the SIM card back and forth between the loaner and my PinePhone! No forms to fill out or promises made--the tech just handed me the loaner Samsung phone and assumed I'd return it when I no longer need it (which I will, of course). Wow!
Sadly I've learned from rocket2nfinity that CDMA voice and text only work with the PinePhone with VoLTE and VoLTE is still under development at Inland. I'll probably cancel my subscription until Inland gets it working, but I guess it's required by the industry by Jan. 2022.