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Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - bcnaz - 09-07-2020
Not sure how this could possibly be "Charted" so just going to post what I notice.
I happen to have 2 PMOS Convergent (3g ram) Pine phones.
One is running the factory install of PMOS
The other is running nightly build of Mobian OS (Sept. 05 build)
Both at full charge, I did a few test calls and texts, short web connect
>> then left idle with bluetooth and wifi turned off.
Checked after approximately : 12 hours
The PMOS phone was dead at 0% charge
The Mobian phone was at 30% charge
Maybe we can start to get a rough idea of what to expect for battery life.
Please do chime-in, but for sake of continuity, perhaps keep it in say 2 hour increments :
2 hours - 4 hours - 6 hours - 8 hours 10 hours - 12 hours etc...
Thanks !
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - Cree - 09-09-2020
(09-07-2020, 05:01 PM)bcnaz Wrote: Not sure how this could possibly be "Charted" so just going to post what I notice.Ive noticed mine (UB ports CE edition) runs flat in about 4 or 5 hours with UT. With Mobian it does seem to last about 12 on idle. Havent tested manjaro or arch as long which are my 2 others, arch at least appears to have a similarly slower draw like Mobian
I happen to have 2 PMOS Convergent (3g ram) Pine phones.
One is running the factory install of PMOS
The other is running nightly build of Mobian OS (Sept. 05 build)
Both at full charge, I did a few test calls and texts, short web connect
>> then left idle with bluetooth and wifi turned off.
Checked after approximately : 12 hours
The PMOS phone was dead at 0% charge
The Mobian phone was at 30% charge
Maybe we can start to get a rough idea of what to expect for battery life.
Please do chime-in, but for sake of continuity, perhaps keep it in say 2 hour increments :
2 hours - 4 hours - 6 hours - 8 hours 10 hours - 12 hours etc...
Thanks !
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - bcnaz - 09-09-2020
I am still attempting to get this in an organized fashion so any input is appreciated.
I have a no name old dumb phone for calling to & from and texting.
then a Brave Heart, 2 PMOS Convergent Pkg phones on hand, and a standard PMOS still on its way.
The Brave Heart is kind of a daily driver for now.
Trying to contribute to the community.
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - hiimtye - 09-11-2020
from my experience there doesn't seem to be any sort of consistency in battery life. some days it will fully discharge after 4 hours off the charger, and some days it can be in my pocket all day and still have 80% battery life.
running Manjaro
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - Cree - 09-11-2020
(09-11-2020, 06:40 PM)hiimtye Wrote: from my experience there doesn't seem to be any sort of consistency in battery life. some days it will fully discharge after 4 hours off the charger, and some days it can be in my pocket all day and still have 80% battery life.All day with 80% remaining sounds phenomenal. Outlier or not we gotta figure out what happened there and extrapolate that set up across all distros. Is Manjaro doing you well as a daily driver so far?
running Manjaro
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - pjsf - 09-12-2020
I find I get about 12-15 hours on my mobian braveheart - if I restart it after any significant activity e.g making or receiving calls, web browsing on mobile date. lately it doesn't seem to require rebooting as often, but if I feel it startinmg to warm up in my pocket I reboot.
Ubports is all over the place, some days with low usage, it's at 63% after 10 hours then 5 mins later it's at 12%, which I presume is down to not properly sampling the battery on wake.
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - hiimtye - 09-13-2020
(09-11-2020, 11:52 PM)Cree Wrote:I notice sometimes when I pull my phone out of my pocket that the screen is on, which I think contributes to the lower battery life. my guess is the long life days have less or none of it.(09-11-2020, 06:40 PM)hiimtye Wrote: from my experience there doesn't seem to be any sort of consistency in battery life. some days it will fully discharge after 4 hours off the charger, and some days it can be in my pocket all day and still have 80% battery life.All day with 80% remaining sounds phenomenal. Outlier or not we gotta figure out what happened there and extrapolate that set up across all distros. Is Manjaro doing you well as a daily driver so far?
running Manjaro
yeah, I like Manjaro. I use Arch as my daily driver on all of my PCs, and Manjaro seems to be the most consistently updated of the Arch spinoffs here. I'm not a fan of Wayland, as it seems to crash a lot, but I'm even less of a fan of UBPorts or KDE, so it seems like the lesser of the available evils. if there were an X11 option, I would certainly adopt it at least to see if it's less prone to crashes.
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - Cree - 09-13-2020
(09-13-2020, 06:46 PM)hiimtye Wrote:I also think screen brightness in UT is a big reason for higher consumption. Looking at the screen is like looking at the sun, and the dimmest setting is still like staring at a light bulb. Cant wait for them to decrease screen brightness.(09-11-2020, 11:52 PM)Cree Wrote:I notice sometimes when I pull my phone out of my pocket that the screen is on, which I think contributes to the lower battery life. my guess is the long life days have less or none of it.(09-11-2020, 06:40 PM)hiimtye Wrote: from my experience there doesn't seem to be any sort of consistency in battery life. some days it will fully discharge after 4 hours off the charger, and some days it can be in my pocket all day and still have 80% battery life.All day with 80% remaining sounds phenomenal. Outlier or not we gotta figure out what happened there and extrapolate that set up across all distros. Is Manjaro doing you well as a daily driver so far?
running Manjaro
yeah, I like Manjaro. I use Arch as my daily driver on all of my PCs, and Manjaro seems to be the most consistently updated of the Arch spinoffs here. I'm not a fan of Wayland, as it seems to crash a lot, but I'm even less of a fan of UBPorts or KDE, so it seems like the lesser of the available evils. if there were an X11 option, I would certainly adopt it at least to see if it's less prone to crashes.
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - hiimtye - 09-15-2020
yeah, the autobrightness doesn't seem to work very well. it's either so dark that I can't use it in the day time, or so bright that I lose my ability to see walls at night time lol
if I manually set the brightness then it seems alright, but that's assuming that Wayland/Phosh are cooperating with me at that point in time. sometimes the entire Phosh UI becomes unusable, followed by a crash of Wayland, and a soft reboot. I wish that Phosh were written to be X11 compatible.
I honestly prefer the UI of Limiri or w/e UBPorts is, and it seems relatively stable, but it's a closed ecosystem so I may as well run /e/ if I were to run it, and Libertine seems a mess.
RE: Pine phone Battery life vs operating system - alpopa - 09-24-2020
The battery life is one of my greatest concerns for PinePhone. I use Mobian with Phosh. The idle time is about 12-18 hours. I also observed that auto screen brightness doesn't work very well. However the option to reduce the brightness when battery level is low seems to work well. I usually keep the brightness at 50% and it is sufficient for me.
The greatest energy consumers seem to be:
1. Reboot takes 2-3 % of battery charge
2. apt update & apt upgrade (and generally heavy download via WiFi)
Unfortunately, after each update I feel necessary to reboot.
Also I often open Settings to enable/disable WiFi and check Sound input and output (they are suddenly reset to headphone instead of internal speaker / microphone after reboot). The starting / closing an application also seems to drain some battery charge, so I ended up with having Setting always started (I don't know any way to keep it minimized in Phosh though).
Overall, I am happy with the fact Mobian pushes updates for PinePhone hardware support and Phosh almost every day.