(06-05-2020, 02:05 PM)lemaurien19 Wrote: Just got my Pinebook Pro. Even if I've had to pay customs duty/taxes for shipping to Ireland (~ EUR 77!), really glad I made the decision to buy.

I immediately cloned the default Manjaro installation from the 64gb emmc to the 128gb emmc I ordered along with the pbp; opened it up and made the swap. Working nice and smoothly

Also, the unit I got booted properly from the get go and wifi was enabled out of the box. I didn't experience any of these known issues with some units.

Btw, I tried to boot up an SD card with Manjaro XFCE for Pinebook Pro https://manjaro.org/downloads/official/xfce/ but it was not booting up or either taking an extraordinarily long time. I tried the Debian default build and it booted from SD card without any issue. Might be Manjaro XFCE related.

Anyway, just dropped by to say that this is one solid machine and well-built and thanks so much for bringing this product

(06-09-2020, 04:24 PM)pjsf Wrote: ...

The last point sounds like the factory forgot to remove the protective film from the panel. this happened a few times with the first batch. there's a thread somewhere about the best way to remove it.

edit: here we go: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8188&highlight=remove+screen

• Like others, I also had to pay a hefty EUR 63,75 import fee. If you can find a distributor in the EU, that would make all the difference.
  

• Maybe i got lucky here, but mine seems fine. The keyboard flexes a little bit and there's a tiny bit of slack between the display and the webcam, but for the rest it feels solid and smooth. The touchpad is properly snapped in and the display looks great.
  

• Powering it up for the first time with the preinstalled Manjaro was a breeze, created a user, set a password and localization and off you go. Exactly how it should be.
  
• A sheet of paper with instructions for turning on the Wi-Fi was added, which worked exactly as promised
  
• After a reboot (as mentioned), connected to the Wi-Fi and fired up Firefox, everything worked as expected. Youtube works fine, even 1080P in full screen (although it does drain the battery faster, that's still no different from any other laptop).
  
• Installing a bunch of updates and rebooting, just the same, works like it should.
  
• Manjaro is really user-friendly and everything just works! For everything i did through the UI, nothing broke and not a single error message appeared. I was completely surprised that even WPA-Enterprise (PEAP + TTLS or MSCHAPV2) worked just like that!
  

• I have nothing to complain performance-wise, it might not be very high-powered but it doesn't feel slow when browsing and you have to really push it before the 4GB limit becomes a problem (if you disagree and use Chrome, switch to Firefox first).
  
• The EMMC module doesn't seem to be holding it back either. If it ever feels slow, it's more a matter of feedback (changing the pointer to indicate something is happening in the background). Such subtle UX improvements can make a big difference.
  
• The display is just great, especially for the money.
  
• Apart from the slight flexing, the keyboard feels good, I find it pleasant to type on.
  
• The touchpad is perhaps the weakest point, it's quite hard to position the pointer accurately even at low sensitivity and unusable at higher sensitivity, which means it can be hard to select or drag something across more than half a screen's width. This is quite annoying and i would've happily paid EUR 10 more for higher-quality touchpad. Then again, as the firmware is upgradable maybe there is room for improvement as well. The buttons are fine and it's nice to have some gesture support and two-finger scroll.
  
• Sound quality is okay.
  
• Webcam gives an extremely low framerate in Cheese, picture looks okay for a laptop of this class. Haven't used it with a real video chat application yet.
  
• Haven't used the microphone yet.
  
• Haven't used the USB-C, USB3-A ports yet, or the MicroSD reader.
  

• Following the Arch Linux guides seems to work well in general and Arch's documentation is very good.
  
• I use a Yubikey for logging in (via pam_u2f) and this works fine. U2F in Firefox works as well, and so does SSH auth using the pgp certificate in my Yubikey.
  
• I encrypted my homedir with fscript and this works fine too, did have to make a few tweaks as for example putting something in ~/.pam_environment doesn't work.
  
• Enabling OpenGL ES 3.0 and installing mesa-git was easy and works fine.
  
• Installing an NVMe drive was easy enough (but i'm used to tinkering with hardware) and it was recognised immediately.
  I've put /home and /var on it as I didn't want to take the risk of changing the boot device and failing. I know I can fix anything, but I also don't have time for everything.
  
• Created a page file and modified the kernel command line to use it for hibernation. Appears to work. Perhaps this should be done by default?
  
• Even something like Keepass (on Mono) worked out of the box.
  

• Unfortunately having the NMVe SSD seems to be preventing it from going into standby now, see https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8207&pid=67907#pid67907
  
  
• When I opened it up to install the NVMe adapter and SSD, the speakers were stuck to the underside. The wiring doesn't have a whole lot of slack so it was difficult to figure out what to do. I was initially searching for a connector to unplug, until i checked some pictures online and noticed that the speakers were supposed to be stuck to the plastic shell rather than the metal underside. I pryed them loose, put them in the plastic shell and now it's fine. I think the adhesive was put on the wrong side of the speaker during assembly (they were facing the right way).
  
  
• I also get the high-pitched noise which indeed seems like it's from a switching power supply. Luckily as I get older my hearing will deteriorate and i will stop hearing high frequencies, so this problem will solve itself eventually . It's not at a level where it is annoying. Additionally i hear a slightly louder noise, a bit like a whine, whenever sound is being played back as well as a couple of seconds afterwards, until it stops the sound device again. This one does seem to come out of the speakers. If i had to guess i would same some high impedance PCB traces between a DAC and an amplifier somewhere are picking up crosstalk from digital traces nearby, or the amplifier's power supply (or analog ground) are noisy.
  

(06-10-2020, 01:06 PM)Tiny Pudding Wrote:

(06-09-2020, 04:24 PM)pjsf Wrote: ...

The last point sounds like the factory forgot to remove the protective film from the panel. this happened a few times with the first batch. there's a thread somewhere about the best way to remove it.

edit: here we go: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8188&highlight=remove+screen

Hm. If I gently press (with something soft) on the bubbly parts it doesn't bulge at all, and the display isn't diffuse in any way that would suggest there's a plastic film covering it. Is there a normal fixed screen protector infront of the display?