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RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - tgrauss - 10-04-2019
It should be bootable with the right uboot on NOR flash.
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - bcnaz - 10-04-2019
hmm
I wonder, if just re-drilling mounting the holes in the M.2 adapter card to move it over just a little would work ?
IF that works, the original ribbon cable may possibly still work also.
From the picture in the WIKI
It does not appear to need to move much to get it out from under the touch pad.
(10-04-2019, 01:26 AM)tgrauss Wrote: It should be bootable with the right uboot on NOR flash.
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I am Hopeful for a solution For sure,
But I saw a post from TLLIM (posted this evening) stating something about the SOC is set up to boot from the EMMc or the sdcard.
but not the PCIe slot ... but TLLIM likely knows the most about the whole project.
(I am not sure I am correct in my recollection)
Wish I could give a link to his post. But it was just this evening
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - danielt - 10-04-2019
(10-04-2019, 01:31 AM)bcnaz Wrote:(10-04-2019, 01:26 AM)tgrauss Wrote: It should be bootable with the right uboot on NOR flash.
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I am Hopeful for a solution For sure,
But I saw a post from TLLIM (posted this evening) stating something about the SOC is set up to boot from the EMMc or the sdcard.
but not the PCIe slot ... but TLLIM likely knows the most about the whole project.
(I am not sure I am correct in my recollection)
The RK3399 first tries to boot from a small SPI NOR flash device. As shipped there is no bootloader in NOR flash so the RK3399 looks in eMMC where is finds and loads u-boot. If eMMC is damaged (or disabled) the chip will also try to find a bootloader via the USB ports and via SD card.
It will never try to load u-boot from PCIe... but that might be OK! In principle if PCIe and NVME drivers can be enabled in u-boot then, although the RK3399 would load u-boot from SPI or eMMC, the PBP would *appear* to be booting from NVME because u-boot could fetch the operating system kernel from the SSD.
To be honest this is pretty much how USB and SD card booting is designed to work today. u-boot is normally loaded from eMMC but u-boot itself will (with default settings) look for an operating system on USB 2.0 and SD card *before* it tries to load the OS from eMMC.
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - bcnaz - 10-04-2019
(10-04-2019, 02:13 AM)danielt Wrote:*********(10-04-2019, 01:31 AM)bcnaz Wrote:(10-04-2019, 01:26 AM)tgrauss Wrote: It should be bootable with the right uboot on NOR flash.
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I am Hopeful for a solution For sure,
But I saw a post from TLLIM (posted this evening) stating something about the SOC is set up to boot from the EMMc or the sdcard.
but not the PCIe slot ... but TLLIM likely knows the most about the whole project.
(I am not sure I am correct in my recollection)
The RK3399 first tries to boot from a small SPI NOR flash device. As shipped there is no bootloader in NOR flash so the RK3399 looks in eMMC where is finds and loads u-boot. If eMMC is damaged (or disabled) the chip will also try to find a bootloader via the USB ports and via SD card.
It will never try to load u-boot from PCIe... but that might be OK! In principle if PCIe and NVME drivers can be enabled in u-boot then, although the RK3399 would load u-boot from SPI or eMMC, the PBP would *appear* to be booting from NVME because u-boot could fetch the operating system kernel from the SSD.
To be honest this is pretty much how USB and SD card booting is designed to work today. u-boot is normally loaded from eMMC but u-boot itself will (with default settings) look for an operating system on USB 2.0 and SD card *before* it tries to load the OS from eMMC.
Great Thank you very Much... !
NOW, We just need to make it fit inside the PBP
We do have the adapter, just got to get it away from the touch pad
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - danielt - 10-04-2019
(10-04-2019, 02:29 AM)bcnaz Wrote: NOW, We just need to make it fit inside the PBP
We do have the adapter, just got to get it away from the touch pad
If I understood Luke comments correctly then I think someone may have to do the work to get the drivers working in u-boot... however my PBP hasn't landed yet so I can't be certain (if it is not implemented it will be on my list of "things I'd like to do with PBP" but since my time is short and my list is long I suspect someone else will get there before I do).
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - hdk - 10-05-2019
bcnaz Wrote:danielt Wrote:*********bcnaz Wrote:tgrauss Wrote:It should be bootable with the right uboot on NOR flash.
******
I am Hopeful for a solution For sure,
But I saw a post from TLLIM (posted this evening) stating something about the SOC is set up to boot from the EMMc or the sdcard.
but not the PCIe slot ... but TLLIM likely knows the most about the whole project.
(I am not sure I am correct in my recollection)
The RK3399 first tries to boot from a small SPI NOR flash device. As shipped there is no bootloader in NOR flash so the RK3399 looks in eMMC where is finds and loads u-boot. If eMMC is damaged (or disabled) the chip will also try to find a bootloader via the USB ports and via SD card.
It will never try to load u-boot from PCIe... but that might be OK! In principle if PCIe and NVME drivers can be enabled in u-boot then, although the RK3399 would load u-boot from SPI or eMMC, the PBP would *appear* to be booting from NVME because u-boot could fetch the operating system kernel from the SSD.
To be honest this is pretty much how USB and SD card booting is designed to work today. u-boot is normally loaded from eMMC but u-boot itself will (with default settings) look for an operating system on USB 2.0 and SD card *before* it tries to load the OS from eMMC.
Great Thank you very Much... !
NOW, We just need to make it fit inside the PBP
We do have the adapter, just got to get it away from the touch pad
A small NVMe SSD, M.2 2242 (42mm) will do the trick?
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - Arwen - 10-05-2019
(10-05-2019, 12:56 AM)hdk Wrote:bcnaz Wrote:...
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Great Thank you very Much... !
NOW, We just need to make it fit inside the PBP
We do have the adapter, just got to get it away from the touch pad
A small NVMe SSD, M.2 2242 (42mm) will do the trick?
I was thinking the same thing, shorter NVMe module. However, some shorter ones are only 2 PCIe lanes, because they are designed for the different keyed slots. (Those slots support SATA, USB & 2 x PCIe.) Will have to do some research.
For example, a quick check finds this on Amazon;
Lexar NM520 M.2 2242 512GB NVMe Solid-State Drive (LNM520-512RBNA)
Quote:The NM520 is supported by the PCIe Gen3x2 NVMe
...
Edit: Further checks, found this;
Toshiba Announces Fourth-Generation BGA SSD with 96L 3D NAND - BG4
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - erosketak - 10-08-2019
Can I boot the system from PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter ??
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - danielt - 10-08-2019
(10-08-2019, 06:12 AM)erosketak Wrote: Can I boot the system from PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter ??
Not yet.
At present the best you can do is put the firmware and boot partition in eMMC and place the rootfs (and any others) on NVMe.
At some point in the future it may be possible to put the firmware in SPI and place all operating system partitions on the NVMe... but that will take time (not least because getting SPI firmware wrong will partially brick the board).
RE: The PINEBOOK Pro M.2/NGFF NVMe SSD Interface Adapter - 8jef - 10-09-2019
Got some Toshiba 128GB SSD M.2 2242 NVMe SSS0P38304 off eBay
It should fit
Love this project, been looking for this kind of hardware for ages
And love this forum
You guys are bound for some amazing hacks on PBP
Glad to be around
