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RE: New module: POT board - CanadianIceTech - 01-31-2016 (01-31-2016, 05:43 PM)khgoh Wrote:(01-31-2016, 03:59 PM)CanadianIceTech Wrote:More detail info and sensor/IC spec for board can be found at,(01-31-2016, 11:42 AM)stephen fleming Wrote:I think that is probably what I'm looking for. If I can use a $15 pine64 board in a case that has a large battery (to lengthen times between charging), plus the sensors it'd be far cheaper than what is commercially available. Ideally I'd like to have a wifi receiver on the outside of my office to collect the data from the sensors, then send to a laptop. This will be for monitoring, and also for remote alerts of warm temps caused by a power plant failure so I can try and save the ice while the issue is resolved with the ice plant. (http://www.eyeontheice.com/index.html)(01-30-2016, 11:00 PM)CanadianIceTech Wrote: For the temperature and humidity sensors, what's the accuracy with them? I have a big need for accurate temp and humidity sensors that can transmit data back to a host computer (preferably over wifi), but the temp sensor needs to be a probe that can accurately read ice temperature to 0.1FI think I found the board you are looking for: Thank you very much for the response. I'm really going to be looking more into this over the coming months and hopefully I can get something going by the next curling season in September. A bunch of this is still new to me, but I am very interested in exploring this more and learning how to build things like these. The commercially available version of this starts at $5k with very few sensors, so if I can build something like this for about $100 total per sensor (pine64, addon-modules, battery, temp/humidity sensors, etc) that would be preferred. RE: New module: POT board - MichaelMeissner - 01-31-2016 (01-31-2016, 05:43 PM)khgoh Wrote: For the I2C 4 wire connector, the pin are GND,SDA,SCL and 5V. For the five pin are GND, INTR, SDA, SCL and 5V. For some of the I2C device, they are build in with interrupt. With this interrupt, the CPU will have faster reaction time when certain condition is trigger. This also implied that if the CPU is waiting for the trigger condition, the CPU do not need to scan I2C device thus provide a more efficient use of I2C bus. 6 connectors ( 2pcs five pin and 4pcs of four pin I2C connector) is connect to TWI1-SCL/SDA channel in the pi-2 bus and another 6pcs of the connector is connected to TWI-SCL/SCA channel in the Pi-2 Bus.From a connector design point of view, I sort of wish you didn't have both 5 pin and 4 pin i2c items. For example, if you wanted to have both the ambient light sensor and a generic 4 pin i2c device share the same wire connection to the pine64, you would need to craft a 4 pin to 5 pin cable (and plug in the ambient light sensor first) to hook up the second device. Or you have to run a second i2c connection for the second item back to the board. In addition, if you had moved the interrupt pin to one of the ends, you might be able to use a 4 pin connection (without the locking tabs) directly. I would hope you plan to sell 5 pin and 4 pin connector cables in the pine64 store once you open for retail business, as well as the raw connectors. If you had standardized on just having 5 pin cables, it would have made the interconnection simpler. But there is no standardization in this area. Of the i2c devices I've looked at, the pinouts are all over the place, that I just give up and use separate wires. RE: New module: POT board - khgoh - 01-31-2016 (01-31-2016, 07:00 PM)MichaelMeissner Wrote:Yes, we will be selling the wire with 4way to 4way connector , 5way to 5way connector and 4way to 5way connector.(01-31-2016, 05:43 PM)khgoh Wrote: For the I2C 4 wire connector, the pin are GND,SDA,SCL and 5V. For the five pin are GND, INTR, SDA, SCL and 5V. For some of the I2C device, they are build in with interrupt. With this interrupt, the CPU will have faster reaction time when certain condition is trigger. This also implied that if the CPU is waiting for the trigger condition, the CPU do not need to scan I2C device thus provide a more efficient use of I2C bus. 6 connectors ( 2pcs five pin and 4pcs of four pin I2C connector) is connect to TWI1-SCL/SDA channel in the pi-2 bus and another 6pcs of the connector is connected to TWI-SCL/SCA channel in the Pi-2 Bus.From a connector design point of view, I sort of wish you didn't have both 5 pin and 4 pin i2c items. For example, if you wanted to have both the ambient light sensor and a generic 4 pin i2c device share the same wire connection to the pine64, you would need to craft a 4 pin to 5 pin cable (and plug in the ambient light sensor first) to hook up the second device. Or you have to run a second i2c connection for the second item back to the board. RE: New module: POT board - Crispin - 01-31-2016 (01-31-2016, 08:24 AM)MichaelMeissner Wrote: The board is mis-named (IMHO). From the title, it sounds like a board that can directly hook up 12 potentiometers (variable resisters like analog dials), but instead it is a shared i2c bus board. Yes, you can hook up 12 i2c devices, each of which provides a potentiometer and has a small microprocessor to do the i2c connection, but you can also hook up displays, switches, etc. Thank you, MichaelMeissner - that was a great post and I learned a lot from it, much appreciated. In return, this might be useful: I discovered that another meaning of the 'POT' in the naming of this accessory, in addition to "potentiometer", is "Peripheral On Top". (Source) I don't know if that's a widely-recognised usage or if it is just used by PINE, but that may be what they're intending. (The whole 12C I2C is confusing enough for new players!) RE: New module: POT board - MichaelMeissner - 01-31-2016 I'm more familiar with POT == potentiometers, but I could understand it being Peripheral on Top, though I would argue that the board is still mis-named, because the peripheral's aren't on top, just the plugs for the peripherals. The veroboard is more for peripheral on top usage, since you can wire the components directly to the prototype board. But that is a minor thing. However, unlike embedded microcontrollers like Arduino or Teensy, you probably won't be able to plug analog sensors directly into the pine64. In addition, running an OS is problematical for things that need hard real time control (like neopixel/ws2812 leds). So, you would plug in the embedded MCU's to one of the standard buses (i2c, spi, serial, i2s, etc.), and send them commands to do their limited actions. RE: New module: POT board - Liuka Finke - 02-19-2016 There is a disconnect in their i2c designs. The normal i2c connection has 4 pins (ground, power, scl, sda) and most of the plugs have 4 pins. But the ambient light sensor wants to pass a 5th pin (called nInt, which presumably is a pin that goes high when the state changes so that you can attach an interrupt so that you know when their is new data). They put the nInt pin between ground and sda pins, which means you can't intermix 4 pin and 5 pin i2c connections. http://www.7pcb.com RE: New module: POT board - MichaelMeissner - 02-19-2016 (02-19-2016, 10:13 AM)Liuka Finke Wrote: There is a disconnect in their i2c designs. The normal i2c connection has 4 pins (ground, power, scl, sda) and most of the plugs have 4 pins. That was the point I made on January 31st in this thread. Since I wrote that post, the bakerkit is up, they do sell 4 pin i2c cables, 5 pin i2c cables, and a 5 pin to 4 pin conversion cable. So you can intermix the 5 pin i2c devices with the 4 pin i2c devices as long you connect the 5 pin i2c devices to the POT board, and then use the 5 pin to 5 pin conversion cable to attach the 4 pin i2c devices. Or, you can use the POT multi i2c bus board which has 4 connections for the 5 pin i2c devices (each of the connectors targets a different pin for interrupt), and 6 connectors for the 4 pin i2c devices. Note, even if the pins lined up, you would not be able to plug a 4 pin cable into a 5 pin slot, since the plugs are shaped to only allow a fixed size plug to be used. RE: New module: POT board - khgoh - 02-20-2016 I have post up a diagram on the interconnection of the I2C cable http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/POT#Inter_Connection_Wire Please check it out. RE: New module: POT board - COMPUTIAC - 02-22-2016 I have ordered the PINE A64+ 2GB board with a Wifi 802.11BGN/ Bluetooth 4.0 Module and a power supply for it. Now I would like to add a Humidity Temperature Sensor for PINE64 but I can't find out how to connect it. Can some one advice me as to what I will need to connect it. I think I may have to buy this first PINE64 12C Multiport POT , then a cable to connect it. Is this the correct way to do this or is there a shorter way around it. Thanks to everyone in advance for your help. RE: New module: POT board - khgoh - 02-22-2016 (02-22-2016, 10:53 PM)COMPUTIAC Wrote: I have ordered the PINE A64+ 2GB board with a Wifi 802.11BGN/ Bluetooth 4.0 Module and a power supply for it. The best way to connect the I2C sensor is using the Pine64 I2C Multiport POT. For Humidity Temperature Sensor, you need to use 4Way I2C cable to connect the Sensor to the I2C Multiport POT. Please check out our wiki page below for more info. http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/POT |