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RE: WhatsApp & Pinephone - What are the alternatives for collaborative comms? - Emili - 08-26-2021
Hi,
really interesting thread, thank you all. I'm new in this forum and I don't have yet my pinephone. I want it just to experiment and play for now, but when I imagine me using it as my definitive phone (discarding my current samsung with android) one of the stoppers I have is whatsapp. I don't like it, but my family, friends, job colleagues, etc. use it and I can't expect they all to move to something more free.
So, I have a question for all of you. Have somebody test running Anbox + whatsapp in the pinephone? (I guess, reading this thread, that this is the more natural way to run it on pinephone) I understand it's possible but, is it practical? the performance is acceptable?
Thanks a lot!
RE: WhatsApp & Pinephone - What are the alternatives for collaborative comms? - Stephen21 - 04-14-2023
(07-26-2021, 08:39 AM)Zombie Feynman Wrote: You can install WhatsApp inside Android Studio on a desktop or server. You need to be able to receive a text message with a verification code in order to create an account. That does not have to be the same device, so you can just use your PinePhone to receive the text message and type the code into the emulated WhatsApp on your desktop.
Aero WhatsApp
If you put the Android Studio AVD on a server, you can bridge it with Matrix and use e.g. Mirage on the PinePhone to access your WhatsApp chats. Alternatively, use WhatsApp Web or a VNC viewer to interact with WhatsApp directly and avoid the annoyingly complicated setup of the Matrix bridge.
If i use the Android Studio or other VM Android on the desktop, then create the WhatsApp account on the desktop. Then I can login in the WhatsApp web easily.
Now, my question is, if i remove the Android studio after logging in the WhatsApp Web, will i be logged out from the Web or will it still be active?
RE: WhatsApp & Pinephone - What are the alternatives for collaborative comms? - zetabeta - 04-14-2023
(04-14-2023, 12:49 AM)Stephen21 Wrote:(07-26-2021, 08:39 AM)Zombie Feynman Wrote: You can install WhatsApp inside Android Studio on a desktop or server. You need to be able to receive a text message with a verification code in order to create an account. That does not have to be the same device, so you can just use your PinePhone to receive the text message and type the code into the emulated WhatsApp on your desktop.
Aero WhatsApp
If you put the Android Studio AVD on a server, you can bridge it with Matrix and use e.g. Mirage on the PinePhone to access your WhatsApp chats. Alternatively, use WhatsApp Web or a VNC viewer to interact with WhatsApp directly and avoid the annoyingly complicated setup of the Matrix bridge.
If i use the Android Studio or other VM Android on the desktop, then create the WhatsApp account on the desktop. Then I can login in the WhatsApp web easily.
Now, my question is, if i remove the Android studio after logging in the WhatsApp Web, will i be logged out from the Web or will it still be active?
let it be clear, that i don't use whatsapp, or its web interface.
what i know, whatsapp web works little differently than signal desktop. whatsapp web is temporary and needs to be reactivated again for next time. if you uninstall whatsapp, then web connection is gone.
i think android studio usage is unpractical. i tried camera support and it's there, but cumbersome. so using it every time is not worth it and some guys .... not naming anyone here ... has some issues with google's android studio software and its android images with some components.
RE: WhatsApp & Pinephone - What are the alternatives for collaborative comms? - rockjonn - 07-17-2023
(07-17-2021, 02:53 AM)danimations Wrote: I have a problem I hope someone can help me solve.
I have a Pinephone and a client that I work with has asked if I can install a WhatsApp client on my phone in order to keep up with some group discussions there about a collaborative project. I've never used WhatsApp on any device, and after learning that it was bought by Facebook a few years back, I'm disinclined to use it.
I looked into the practicalities of setting up WhatsApp on Pinephone anyway, using an in-browser or stand-alone desktop client... and there's a major problem. You need to already have WhatsApp installed on an Android/Apple smartphone before your can set up a desktop client on a PC (or Pinephone).
Is it possible to establish a Whatsapp account without using an Android or Apple handset beforehand/simultaneously?
Is there anything that the WhatsApp platform offers that alternative platforms don't?
My preferred solution is to encourage the client to switch to an alternative collaborative chat/file sharing platform that is private and mobile friendly, but I'd need to convince a bunch of people to change platforms. What alternative(s) would you recommend?
Any advice will be warmly welcomed.FM whatsapp
WhatsApp requires initial setup and verification through an Android or Apple handset before using it on other devices, including Pinephone or desktop clients. Without setting it up on a smartphone first, you won't be able to use WhatsApp on other platforms.
switch to an alternative collaborative chat/file-sharing platform, there are several options available. Here are a few alternatives that prioritize privacy and are mobile-friendly:
Signal: Signal is a highly secure messaging app known for its strong encryption and privacy features. It supports group chats, voice and video calls, and file sharing.
Telegram: Telegram is a cloud-based messaging platform that offers end-to-end encryption for secret chats. It provides group chats, voice and video calls, and file sharing capabilities.
Matrix/Riot: Matrix is an open standard for decentralized communication, and Riot is a Matrix-based messaging app. It offers group chats, voice and video calls, file sharing, and emphasizes privacy and interoperability.
RE: WhatsApp & Pinephone - What are the alternatives for collaborative comms? - bsdbrulll - 11-27-2024
(08-21-2021, 07:54 PM)TRS-80 Wrote: I am also using Dino (as an XMPP client) on the PinePhone.
There is actually a feature/handy branch, which is exactly what it sounds like (they implemented libhandy, as Dino is apparently already a GTK program in the first place). But that means you will need to compile it from source (for now). Which is a slight pain, however OTOH it is also so cool that this is possible to even do this directly on the PinePhone (being that it is a regular GNU/Linux OS after all...)!
There is an issue thread about it at their Microsoft GitHub, in fact I gave my feedback on compiling on the phone in this post. I seem to be successful in compiling things only about 50% of the time, lol, but this actually went relatively painless. Oh yes, and disregard my comments about launching the compiled app, after some time (or a reboot maybe?) it started to "just work" like normal (in fact I guess I should report that back...).
There are a couple (lesser used) menus that you might need to work around by turning to landscape, but a good majority of the app (and all the "main" views) have been implemented in libhandy by now. It is quite useable at this point already!
Thank you for this information. It is helpful!!