(11-28-2020, 09:30 AM)firefox-58 Wrote: AFAIK the story I can NOT agree.

I am also very very very disappointed with the usability of the PP as a real world device. We have here Beta releases which can not make or receive calls. and cannot send or receive SMS.  And this after months of develoment and selling the phones. If I had known that in end of November the phone can already not act as a phone I had never bought it!

Maybe his tone was a bit more offending, but we never get an appropriate answer of the burning question - would PP become a usable phone - and so I can understand him in his frustration. I do not know what was happening behind the scenes. But the posts I know do not give the reason for a ban.

(11-28-2020, 11:30 AM)patrickmollohan Wrote:

(11-28-2020, 09:30 AM)firefox-58 Wrote: AFAIK the story I can NOT agree.

I am also very very very disappointed with the usability of the PP as a real world device. We have here Beta releases which can not make or receive calls. and cannot send or receive SMS.  And this after months of develoment and selling the phones. If I had known that in end of November the phone can already not act as a phone I had never bought it!

Maybe his tone was a bit more offending, but we never get an appropriate answer of the burning question - would PP become a usable phone - and so I can understand him in his frustration. I do not know what was happening behind the scenes. But the posts I know do not give the reason for a ban.

The point is, the November timeframe is something you've come up with on your own, not something Pine64 (or any PP developer to my knowledge) promised. You have every right to be disappointed in the device if that is how you feel. Honestly, I was disappointed that the convergence feature didn't work out of the box in PostmarketOS like the video showed, but that doesn't mean I was scammed. That means that unfortunately, the devs probably only had a handful of displays to test against, and couldn't account for every display out there in the world. I'm also not happy that MMS support isn't quite ready yet, since that's crucial to my life, but that's also something I knew may take time to get right because years worth of complacency with closed-source, proprietary things has lead us to this point. My current ZenFone 2 is being held together with hot glue because I'm still waiting for that before switching over, but that is a wait that was very clearly part of this process. In the mean time, I'm having fun using the PP as a PDA and porting stuff to the phone, and I'm thankful to the devs for what they contribute.