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RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - tllim - 02-14-2016
(02-14-2016, 04:38 AM)drag00n Wrote: Any updates about releasing code/collaboration from Allwinner's side?
You told us that an engineer from AW was assigned to the pine development...
Please tllim, pine crew cant just let all the weight of the linux development to rely on a handful of bright people *not affiliated to your company*... (and no, i am not one of them [FACE WITH STUCK-OUT TONGUE AND WINKING EYE])
I agree that a strong and smart community is good and helps, but the main dev must be done by pine crew...
As usual, im sorry if i sound hard, but language restrict my explaining abilities...
Please keep us updated, dont let this project die before its birth!
Noted on the concern. I will meet up with AW on February 21 which is next week. The Chinese New Year always cause some communicate break for 2-3 weeks when dealing with China engineers.
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - drag00n - 02-14-2016
Perfect, keep us posted!
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - tllim - 02-14-2016
(02-14-2016, 01:02 PM)drag00n Wrote: Perfect, keep us posted!
I always hate when deal with China on Chinese New Year time, the three week drop silence period always killing me. I starts gradually resume back the China related activities on this week and should able back in full swing on next week.
... TL
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - taros - 02-14-2016
I think that tlim needs a specific list of items that the AW engineer should look into.
Without a specific list of items it will take much longer to get things done.
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - Ghost - 02-14-2016
(02-14-2016, 05:27 PM)taros Wrote: I think that tlim needs a specific list of items that the AW engineer should look into.
Without a specific list of items it will take much longer to get things done.
What do you think are the main, salient issues that should be mentioned?
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - MichaelMeissner - 02-14-2016
(02-14-2016, 05:41 PM)SkairkrohBule Wrote: What do you think are the main, salient issues that should be mentioned?Well, I'm sure others have their own questions, but for me, the biggest question is can people WHO HAVE NOT SIGNED NDAs get access to ALL documentation to all of the bits on pine64, such that they could write drivers from scratch for each of the parts. This includes, but is not limited to:
- How to put the processor into the various sleep modes and wake up from it;
- How to program the GPU so that 3D optimization can be done by the graphics program;
- How to display HDMI/MSI video;
- How to access ALL of the peripherials on the board (USB, i2c, real time clock, ethernet, spi, UART, etc.).
Binary blobs are really not acceptable in the Linux space. It is better to have full documentation and a clean driver than depend on a given binary blob.
In addition, you need to start working with other Linux developers so that your changes can eventually be merged back into the master sources. As I said before, it is not a case where you can just dump something in, and then abandon it, you have to be prepared to support it down the road.
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The pine64 team should issue a realistic assessment of what will work in Linux when so that we can judge what we want to order from the backerkit. For example, will pine64 run at all with a custom distribution when it starts shipping in March (using binary blobs perhaps, and not accelerated)? Will it support running X via an HDMI display? How about the LCD add-on that uses the MSI connector (including touch support)? How about the wifi/bluetooth add-on? How about ethernet? Do you have a realistic timeline for when the additional features will be added?
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - KryPtAlIvIaN - 02-26-2016
Any updates? :-)
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - tllim - 02-27-2016
(02-26-2016, 09:28 AM)KryPtAlIvIaN Wrote: Any updates? :-)
Meeting with Allwinner went well. They have interest to support mainline kernel development and I have already link up Sunxi team with Allwinner.
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - Ghost - 02-27-2016
(02-27-2016, 02:03 PM)tllim Wrote:(02-26-2016, 09:28 AM)KryPtAlIvIaN Wrote: Any updates? :-)
Meeting with Allwinner went well. They have interest to support mainline kernel development and I have already link up Sunxi team with Allwinner.
Well that definitely sounds like good news.
RE: Collaboration from Allwinner - Tassadar - 03-02-2016
(02-27-2016, 02:03 PM)tllim Wrote:(02-26-2016, 09:28 AM)KryPtAlIvIaN Wrote: Any updates? :-)
Meeting with Allwinner went well. They have interest to support mainline kernel development and I have already link up Sunxi team with Allwinner.
Very good news! Hope that's leading to a result!
