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Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - luney - 10-15-2021
This is probably a dumb question, but will any of the Pinephone Hardware be compatable with the regular Pinephone? For example, can I replace the orginal pinephone screen with a gorilla glass version?
This applies to other hardware as well, but the glass would be an awesome upgrade for my orginal Pinephone.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - lacriz - 10-15-2021
To quote from here (https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/) -- scroll down to the FAQ:
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I am a PinePhone owner – will I be able to upgrade it by installing a PinePhone Pro mainboard?
Probably not. While the PinePhone Pro’s mainboard will fit the PinePhone, the chassis, IPS display panel, cameras, the daughterboard, and thermal dissipation systems are all different. For instance, the PinePhone Pro’s cameras will not fit into the PinePhone chassis and are electrically incompatible with PinePhone Pro’s mainboard. Software enablement would also be required to drive the original PinePhone’s components (such as the LCD) using the PinePhone Pro’s mainboard. Thermal dissipation is another important consideration, as the higher heat output may not be trivial to overcome in the original PinePhone’s chassis.
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How repairable is the PinePhone Pro?
Just as the original PinePhone, the PinePhone Pro is built to be user repairable and we will offer spare parts in the Pine Store. The store’s selection will include all parts that frequently break if the device is dropped (the screen, back case and mid section) as well as all electronic components, including the mainboard.
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hope that helps
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - luney - 10-15-2021
It does somewhat. I might end up with thermal problem, software problem, or a frankenstein's monster but I will keep an eye on that once they have the parts for pinephone pro for sale. Unless someone else knows more about it.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - biketool - 10-16-2021
I hope that the pro along with OS upgrades will get us a better battery life, can anyone point me at an estimated pricepoint?
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - CharlieGordon - 10-16-2021
(10-16-2021, 12:55 PM)biketool Wrote: I hope that the pro along with OS upgrades will get us a better battery life, can anyone point me at an estimated pricepoint?
> Developer pre-orders and Explorer Edition coming later this year for $399
Source: https://www.pine64.org/2021/10/15/october-update-introducing-the-pinephone-pro/
The battery life will be worse than for the regular pinephone.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - poVoq - 10-17-2021
(10-16-2021, 03:26 PM)CharlieGordo Wrote: The battery life will be worse than for the regular pinephone.
That remains to be seen. Maybe yes, maybe no... and pre-production hardware without software optimization is not a really good indicator either.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - vajak - 10-17-2021
(10-16-2021, 12:55 PM)biketool Wrote: I hope that the pro along with OS upgrades will get us a better battery life, [...]
This actual hands on review at xnux.eu/log/#047 is pretty clear about what to expect:
Quote:Pinephone Pro is basically Pinebook Pro with more useful PMIC, modem, cameras, and a better supported wifi chip (cypress supported cyw43455 is more open than broadcom supported brcm43456 in PBP) in a much smaller form factor.
Performance is thus much better than the original Pinephone, but the power consumption is higher too. Baseline power consumption with normal backlight brightness and screen turned on is ~2.8–3W. Doing something in the browser or just moving the mouse around rises the power consumption to ~5W. This was tested in sway, with GPU acceleration turned on, and only one CPU core enabled.
That's not a huge problem for Pinebook Pro with its 36Wh battery (4–7h runtime on a notebook is nice) 2–3h runtime with screen on, on a phone, is a problem. It will be a nice mini-notebook with a pinephone keyboard, though.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - zetabeta - 10-17-2021
slightly wrong place but anyway.
i hope this pp pro should get better antenna for gps. if gps is there, i think it should work better. basic pp's gps is near useless, i manage to get reception though. some might argue that pp without gps is better because of privacy. gps module is still there, so it might get something. basically, either it works well or not at all.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - lot378 - 10-17-2021
PinePhone has 2,800-2,820 mAh J7 form factor battery.
PinePhone Pro "slight battery upgrade" has a 3,000 mAh J7 form factor battery.
Despite that, battery life will be much much worse on PinePhone Pro compared with PinePhone because the Pro uses a lot more power (eMMC, CPU, GPU). Battery aside a more important concern is PinePhone Pro will be a very very hot potato and the "oven mitts" comments are no joke. Both phones are important experimental steps on the path to a final goal.
RE: Pinephone Pro vs Pinephone Parts - nelstomlinson - 10-17-2021
Worse battery life is going to be a show stopper for me. However, that better camera sounds attractive! I wonder if that would be a plug-and-play upgrade once Megapixels supports it?
A package with the pro case and pro screen, maybe the new camera, would be a worthwhile upgrade for the original Pinephone.
Better glass, better heat dissipation, room for better antennas would all be nice.