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Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - israel - 03-31-2021
Graphics Tablet: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=graphics+tablet&t=newext&atb=v262-1&iax=images&ia=images
It should be fairly easy to repurpose some of the parts from the Pine Tab to make the screen. It would seem that the main challenge would be to create a PCB and program the board to function as a "Wacom" type input device. It also could be as simple as making the tablet mirror the display, and function as the input device as well. The main missing component would be the pen device itself. This seems like potentially the biggest challenge, though it may be very simple.
I really like using graphics tablets, but having one that was built openly might make sense to more artists in this age of NFTs.
The ability for a proprietary tablet to have un-patched vulnerabilities that could compromise your original work may become an increased concern in the future. It might be good to get ahead of the issues proprietary hardware has before people are clamoring for it retroactively because they have lost artwork, or had it compromised in someway.
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - tllim - 04-05-2021
(03-31-2021, 08:00 AM)israel Wrote: Graphics Tablet: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=graphics+tablet&t=newext&atb=v262-1&iax=images&ia=images
It should be fairly easy to repurpose some of the parts from the Pine Tab to make the screen. It would seem that the main challenge would be to create a PCB and program the board to function as a "Wacom" type input device. It also could be as simple as making the tablet mirror the display, and function as the input device as well. The main missing component would be the pen device itself. This seems like potentially the biggest challenge, though it may be very simple.
I really like using graphics tablets, but having one that was built openly might make sense to more artists in this age of NFTs.
The ability for a proprietary tablet to have un-patched vulnerabilities that could compromise your original work may become an increased concern in the future. It might be good to get ahead of the issues proprietary hardware has before people are clamoring for it retroactively because they have lost artwork, or had it compromised in someway.
Thanks on your suggestion. The display panel should be e-ink or LCD IPS panel?
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - don570don570don570 - 04-06-2021
Grant Abbitt on Youtube is the expert on graphic tablets. He reviews them.
You should do a search.
Here's a video of a tablet costing about $500US that you would have to compete against.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalIBovP7Mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUnblsyy8CU
The biggest manufacturing expense would be the screen , followed by the pen.
You would need a Chinese firm to help you in the design.
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RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - poVoq - 04-07-2021
(04-05-2021, 10:28 PM)tllim Wrote:(03-31-2021, 08:00 AM)israel Wrote: Graphics Tablet: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=graphics+tablet&t=newext&atb=v262-1&iax=images&ia=images
It should be fairly easy to repurpose some of the parts from the Pine Tab to make the screen. It would seem that the main challenge would be to create a PCB and program the board to function as a "Wacom" type input device. It also could be as simple as making the tablet mirror the display, and function as the input device as well. The main missing component would be the pen device itself. This seems like potentially the biggest challenge, though it may be very simple.
I really like using graphics tablets, but having one that was built openly might make sense to more artists in this age of NFTs.
The ability for a proprietary tablet to have un-patched vulnerabilities that could compromise your original work may become an increased concern in the future. It might be good to get ahead of the issues proprietary hardware has before people are clamoring for it retroactively because they have lost artwork, or had it compromised in someway.
Thanks on your suggestion. The display panel should be e-ink or LCD IPS panel?
Depends
For a real stand alone drawing tablet it would obviously need a fast LCD IPS panel. e-ink doesn't refresh sufficiently fast for drawing directly on the screen.
However I personally would prefer a e-ink tablet that can be used as a reader device and for note taking. But such a device could also work as a graphics tablet if it would allow being connected to another computer and work as an input device.
What I imagine is that you can start an app that displays on the e-ink screen a drawing input field and various virtual buttons that can be mapped to a drawing app like Krita or GIMP on the connected PC. Maybe you could even display some simple outlines to help with the drawing, but IMHO not really needed.
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - don570don570don570 - 04-08-2021
>Depends
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>For a real stand alone drawing tablet it would obviously need a fast LCD IPS panel. e-ink doesn't refresh >sufficiently fast for drawing directly on the screen.
I have used a paint program on ordinary android tablets with my finger, and the results were good.
So speed and high resolution is not needed.
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - poVoq - 04-08-2021
(04-08-2021, 12:38 PM)don570don570don570 Wrote: >Depends
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>For a real stand alone drawing tablet it would obviously need a fast LCD IPS panel. e-ink doesn't refresh >sufficiently fast for drawing directly on the screen.
I have used a paint program on ordinary android tablets with my finger, and the results were good.
So speed and high resolution is not needed.
An "ordinary android tablet" already has a very high speed display compared to an e-ink one...
But besides that, you realize that artists interested in buying a graphics tablet might have slightly higher requirements than "I tried it once with my finger and it looked good to me"? :p
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - poVoq - 04-17-2021
https://github.com/H-M-H/Weylus
This is basically a software solution to what I had in mind above. But I think if the Wacom digitizer could be directly exposed via a usb client port, that would really cut down on latency and the screen mirroring isn't really needed.
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - israel - 04-17-2021
Wow, I like both ideas! I do think most artists want a high resolution color screen, but e-ink as an option would be really cool too!
@poVoq That code is amazing! That looks really great, the only issue is the delay you can see in the picture.
I am wondering if you can make the tablet plug in and then appear to be a writing tablet. There might be some way to do this with udev rules or something like that.
It would be nice if you could both mount it using gvfs (store art on the actual tablet, and connect to any computer), and have some udev rule to make it act as a tablet input.
Does that sound reasonable or, would some sort of entirely different kernel module need to be made?
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - israel - 03-12-2022
I'd say the E-Ink PineNote solves this, as well as some future where the PineTab can be purchased again
RE: Product Idea: Pine Graphics Tablet - beatrizcharles - 03-31-2022
(04-06-2021, 01:35 PM)don570don570don570 Wrote: Grant Abbitt on Youtube is the expert on graphic tablets. He reviews them.all videos are great
You should do a search.
Here's a video of a tablet costing about $500US that you would have to compete against.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalIBovP7Mwio games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUnblsyy8CU
The biggest manufacturing expense would be the screen , followed by the pen.
You would need a Chinese firm to help you in the design.
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