https://forum.pine64.org/ Sat, 09 May 2026 12:33:37 +0000 MyBB https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19728 Mon, 10 Mar 2025 18:40:53 +0000 Badgery]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19728 The problems is when I connect the keyboard to the Pinenote via a PinePhone Pro USB-C docking bar I get no response. I also tested it with my Android phone, and same thing, recognises the keyboard via adapter but not the docking bar.
I was starting to wonder if it is a faulty docking bar, but when used with my linux laptop running KDE, then the keyboard does work via the docking Bar.
Any idea what could be going on?]]> The problems is when I connect the keyboard to the Pinenote via a PinePhone Pro USB-C docking bar I get no response. I also tested it with my Android phone, and same thing, recognises the keyboard via adapter but not the docking bar.
I was starting to wonder if it is a faulty docking bar, but when used with my linux laptop running KDE, then the keyboard does work via the docking Bar.
Any idea what could be going on?]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19519 Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:14:33 +0000 bills2002]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19519
I see a bunch on Am...  Anyone have any experience with and suggest a specific one?]]>
I see a bunch on Am...  Anyone have any experience with and suggest a specific one?]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19518 Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:13:17 +0000 bills2002]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19518
So, I need to get a case.  I see tons on Am... that fit "10.3" tablet.  None of them that hit the search for PineNote have reviews.  Im sure those are just generic cases anyway.

Case concepts:
- light
- lid completely folds away
- lid can prop up the PN at 45 degrees 70 degrees ...
- lid has keyboard...bluetooth
- lid has mouse device (track pad, roller, eraser knob)
- lid is nice (subjective but we all know what quality can be had from the internet...it should look and feel nice)

So...Im guessing I may have multiple.  The lightweight one that is easy to use and has no keyboard or mouse.  Then the I need to use this as a laptop one that has keyboard and mouse.

Also...none of them should damage the PN at all (keys pressing into screen when closed, ...)

I started this tread because maybe someone has opinions/suggestions/recommendations?]]>
So, I need to get a case.  I see tons on Am... that fit "10.3" tablet.  None of them that hit the search for PineNote have reviews.  Im sure those are just generic cases anyway.

Case concepts:
- light
- lid completely folds away
- lid can prop up the PN at 45 degrees 70 degrees ...
- lid has keyboard...bluetooth
- lid has mouse device (track pad, roller, eraser knob)
- lid is nice (subjective but we all know what quality can be had from the internet...it should look and feel nice)

So...Im guessing I may have multiple.  The lightweight one that is easy to use and has no keyboard or mouse.  Then the I need to use this as a laptop one that has keyboard and mouse.

Also...none of them should damage the PN at all (keys pressing into screen when closed, ...)

I started this tread because maybe someone has opinions/suggestions/recommendations?]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19517 Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:08:24 +0000 bills2002]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19517 I will need to buy more pens.  My teachers in school were not successful in teaching me how to use them.

So...there are two pens as per the wiki.  Active and EMR?  
https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineNote
It's not clear which I need on the latest (non-devel) release of PineNote.
Developer Edition uses an active pen, which is different than the passive EMR pen described in the guide.
vs

[*]Optional EMR pen with magnetic attachment (included in the first production batch)


The doc that did come with my tablet said "EMR Pen (1x)" and the pen came with replaceable points.
The pen appears to have 2x buttons.  The eraser end pushes in.  By the fingers there is a resting space and above that  a single? button.

I see a lot of pens available on Am...

Recommendations on which one is needed for which tablet?
Recommendations on a nice one that is cheap?
Do the buttons work?  How many buttons are supported.  I assume they tie into the app so Xournalpp would or would not take advantage of them?]]> I will need to buy more pens.  My teachers in school were not successful in teaching me how to use them.

So...there are two pens as per the wiki.  Active and EMR?  
https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineNote
It's not clear which I need on the latest (non-devel) release of PineNote.
Developer Edition uses an active pen, which is different than the passive EMR pen described in the guide.
vs

[*]Optional EMR pen with magnetic attachment (included in the first production batch)


The doc that did come with my tablet said "EMR Pen (1x)" and the pen came with replaceable points.
The pen appears to have 2x buttons.  The eraser end pushes in.  By the fingers there is a resting space and above that  a single? button.

I see a lot of pens available on Am...

Recommendations on which one is needed for which tablet?
Recommendations on a nice one that is cheap?
Do the buttons work?  How many buttons are supported.  I assume they tie into the app so Xournalpp would or would not take advantage of them?]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=14752 Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:37:21 +0000 ideograph]]> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=14752
It has not been done, but is trivial on an open source low-profile mechanical keyboard with thumb keys to wire keys on both sides of the PCB. So for this design, most of the keys would be on one side of the PCB, as in most keyboards, while a few of the thumb keys would be on the flip side, peeking up from the sides of the tablet when in use. I saw someone wire a PCB this way and even describe how it could be used in a tablet keyboard with velcro almost exactly as I am describing, but I wasn't able to find the post again just now, I will do more research and find it.

Essentially: imagine holding the tablet long wise, with hands on both short ends (landscape), your palms would push on the sides of the tablet to hold it in place, likely as you regularly hold a tablet, but on the back of the tablet device would be a complete keyboard (or at least all the letters and numbers and punctuation, say 42 keys) underneat where your fingers naturally lay for each hand, half under your four left fingers, half under your other right. Facing you, alongside the screen of the tablet, would be at least two thumb buttons, as your thumbs naturally remain on the front side of hte tablet when in use. These would be enter,space,shift, etc and other layer keys.

People have pursued chording keyboards to a similar end, but I think the size of a tablet allows for a relatively complete, small, low profile mechanical keyboard to fit on the back and allow extremely fast touch typing on a tablet, and the pine note is perfect for this. This would allow you to very easily use the device as an extremely powerful word processor in your lap, and possibly even as you are walking, and would be a vast improvement over touch screen typing, or even thumb typing on a physical keyboard.


https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/...ze=400,206

There have been at least three insights into this design that other people have had, though I think generally have been over-engineered. For example the blink keyboard is based on the same premise https://hackaday.io/project/174087-blink-keyboard

https://hackaday.io/project/158377-mecha...nd-tablets

https://hackaday.io/project/158377/logs

I will try to find the other examples and post more soon. Let me know what you think. I think this is already 80% availiable to produce just using existing open source split ergo low profile keyboard pcb designs.]]>
It has not been done, but is trivial on an open source low-profile mechanical keyboard with thumb keys to wire keys on both sides of the PCB. So for this design, most of the keys would be on one side of the PCB, as in most keyboards, while a few of the thumb keys would be on the flip side, peeking up from the sides of the tablet when in use. I saw someone wire a PCB this way and even describe how it could be used in a tablet keyboard with velcro almost exactly as I am describing, but I wasn't able to find the post again just now, I will do more research and find it.

Essentially: imagine holding the tablet long wise, with hands on both short ends (landscape), your palms would push on the sides of the tablet to hold it in place, likely as you regularly hold a tablet, but on the back of the tablet device would be a complete keyboard (or at least all the letters and numbers and punctuation, say 42 keys) underneat where your fingers naturally lay for each hand, half under your four left fingers, half under your other right. Facing you, alongside the screen of the tablet, would be at least two thumb buttons, as your thumbs naturally remain on the front side of hte tablet when in use. These would be enter,space,shift, etc and other layer keys.

People have pursued chording keyboards to a similar end, but I think the size of a tablet allows for a relatively complete, small, low profile mechanical keyboard to fit on the back and allow extremely fast touch typing on a tablet, and the pine note is perfect for this. This would allow you to very easily use the device as an extremely powerful word processor in your lap, and possibly even as you are walking, and would be a vast improvement over touch screen typing, or even thumb typing on a physical keyboard.


https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/...ze=400,206

There have been at least three insights into this design that other people have had, though I think generally have been over-engineered. For example the blink keyboard is based on the same premise https://hackaday.io/project/174087-blink-keyboard

https://hackaday.io/project/158377-mecha...nd-tablets

https://hackaday.io/project/158377/logs

I will try to find the other examples and post more soon. Let me know what you think. I think this is already 80% availiable to produce just using existing open source split ergo low profile keyboard pcb designs.]]>