HW Acceleration Working
Guys,

I don't want to be misunderstood, so I want to clarify a couple of points about my previous posts. (Feel free to point out any discrepancies , omissions and errors in the following statements in the spirit of helping to educate the community at large)
First, what I am personally excited about is the possibility of having hardware accelerated 3d Graphics in our Pines. Similar to the following:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rasp...gl-support
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/another...n-release/

As far as my understanding goes (granted, it is limited compared to the pool of expertise in this thread) the application must have been written to use OpenGL (OpenGL ES in our case) and X must have a driver that relays the calls to the GPU to offload the task of rendering those images from the main processor, i.e. providing the performance gain we are excited about for the applications that use it.

In our case, the GPU is the Mali-400 MP2.  As far as I know, the driver for our GPU and architecture (arm64) was released by AllWinner recently, and its being referred here in the thread as the MALI blob because it is a binary provided by AllWinner, not the source code.

This caused a major "hype" if you will, for many people here in the forum. We still celebrate it in our IRC channel (see below - that screenshot is from today). AllWinner even dedicated or partially assigned (with the help of tllim) an engineer to help iron out how to integrate the arm64 version of the driver in X. Work by Lenny Raposo, ssvb, xalius, longsleep and others helped lenny.raposo-pine64.org enable and test the driver in our platform. Yes, there is at least one Pine using hardware acceleration for 3d graphics, albeit in a rudimentary fashion as pointed out by ssvb.

[Image: pine_mali_irc_zpscjxc7zjy.png]

We though we had cracked the HW Acceleration issue when several community members noted the absence of an EULA (End user license agreement) that needs to be in place to be able to create a linux image that can be redistributed to the community, thus inflicting a major blow to the efforts of using it in a future image of debian or ubuntu. And I guess that's when the hype cooled down. Maybe the absence of an EULA have some legal implications that will forbid, for the time being, the distribution of the driver inside an image.

So what happened next? Well one member of the community suggested (and I echoed the suggestion) why instead of (or in addition to) waiting for the EULA, the community creates a How-To to follow the steps used by lenny.raposo-pine64.org for those who want to go ahead and try hardware acceleration of 3D graphics for themselves in the meantime? This suggestion might have been misunderstood because the reaction to it has been a bit harsh from some of the most influential members in the community, IMHO.

So in the end, I still believe that HW Acceleration is valuable, at least the folks at Raspberry PI seem to agree. Maybe we as a community are still too young to engage in this effort, but we were very close to do it and the best part is that we have a native arm64 distribution, so we would have been ahead of RPI3 which still uses a 32 bit architecture in a 64bit platform.

There... I hope this clarifies at least my position and requests in this thread.
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Messages In This Thread
HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 04-06-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 04-07-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rdPine64 - 04-13-2016, 11:22 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-14-2016, 11:00 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rdPine64 - 04-23-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-19-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 04:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-20-2016, 05:06 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 05:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-20-2016, 01:59 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-21-2016, 01:37 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-22-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 04-22-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rahlquist - 04-22-2016, 12:26 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by sirhcjw - 04-26-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by baryluk - 04-26-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 04-27-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fishmech - 05-06-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 05-31-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 05-31-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 05-31-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CybeX - 06-01-2016, 08:47 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Metalazzo - 06-06-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-06-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CybeX - 06-10-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-13-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-14-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by pietrondo - 06-06-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Metalazzo - 06-07-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by BringItOn - 06-11-2016, 04:28 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fneves - 06-14-2016, 04:55 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by pietrondo - 06-14-2016, 09:32 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 06-14-2016, 12:22 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-16-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-16-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-17-2016, 10:31 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ViperVi - 06-17-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-17-2016, 05:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ViperVi - 06-17-2016, 06:37 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Ghost - 06-20-2016, 04:00 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-20-2016, 11:05 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-21-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-23-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 06-23-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 06-23-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 06-23-2016, 01:23 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Monochrome - 06-23-2016, 01:49 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by extr - 06-23-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by xalius - 06-23-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-23-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by barawn - 07-02-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by xalius - 06-24-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Sak3r - 06-24-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Xabaras76 - 06-24-2016, 04:48 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 06-25-2016, 03:40 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-26-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 06-27-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 05:30 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 06-25-2016, 07:09 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-27-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 06-28-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-28-2016, 07:21 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-01-2016, 02:24 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-02-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-14-2016, 06:59 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-16-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-17-2016, 07:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-03-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-06-2016, 11:09 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by janeku - 07-06-2016, 03:42 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by janeku - 07-07-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-07-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Bart333 - 07-11-2016, 10:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 07-11-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 07-11-2016, 08:42 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-16-2016, 06:44 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Boring - 07-17-2016, 03:42 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by adamw - 07-19-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-20-2016, 03:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by vinodmenon80 - 07-20-2016, 04:04 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nugu53 - 07-27-2016, 01:54 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Monochrome - 07-29-2016, 10:18 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by adamw - 07-29-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 07-29-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 07-29-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jkmooney - 07-29-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fire219 - 07-29-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-30-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-30-2016, 06:23 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-30-2016, 01:03 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Er0l - 07-30-2016, 01:27 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by DefinitelyNotLA - 07-30-2016, 02:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 07-30-2016, 02:41 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 07-30-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-30-2016, 07:33 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Xabaras76 - 07-30-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Zoidiano0 - 07-30-2016, 09:55 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Vidiot - 07-30-2016, 02:50 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 07-30-2016, 11:28 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:18 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 02:19 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:41 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 07-31-2016, 03:57 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 10:35 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 09:53 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-01-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 11:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 12:46 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-02-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rallar8 - 08-02-2016, 12:07 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-03-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rallar8 - 08-03-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-03-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by kflorek46 - 08-03-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-04-2016, 09:53 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jodybrown99 - 08-04-2016, 02:19 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by piner64 - 08-08-2016, 02:04 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-08-2016, 04:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by shadowheart - 08-11-2016, 04:52 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-11-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-11-2016, 06:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-12-2016, 02:43 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-12-2016, 02:48 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-12-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-17-2016, 06:32 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by protonic - 08-19-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rcgalvao - 08-23-2016, 06:59 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-25-2016, 06:12 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jkmooney - 08-25-2016, 06:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by nagmier - 08-25-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-25-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-25-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by nagmier - 08-25-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-25-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-26-2016, 04:18 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-26-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-26-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by joe - 08-26-2016, 09:55 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-26-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 08-29-2016, 09:39 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 09:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 02:47 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-29-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-29-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-29-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-30-2016, 01:37 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-30-2016, 02:03 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 02:13 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:10 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 04:47 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 06:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-30-2016, 10:43 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:44 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by adamw - 08-30-2016, 02:53 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-30-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-30-2016, 05:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-30-2016, 11:24 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 07:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by adamw - 08-31-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 03:18 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jkmooney - 08-31-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 04:37 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 05:20 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 08-31-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 09-04-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Ghelorn - 09-04-2016, 03:52 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by psychedup - 09-06-2016, 05:12 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 09-07-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 09-10-2016, 05:33 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 09-10-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 09-11-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Zoidiano0 - 09-10-2016, 07:08 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 09-10-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HayseedGeek - 09-10-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by FlameCRO - 09-11-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tampadave - 10-04-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 10-04-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 10-04-2016, 08:30 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HayseedGeek - 10-05-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 10-05-2016, 07:28 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 10-06-2016, 11:01 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 11-26-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by bmarquismarkail - 12-01-2016, 08:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 12-05-2016, 12:23 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 12-05-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 12-06-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tllim - 12-15-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-08-2016, 05:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 12-11-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-16-2016, 08:18 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Flint - 12-29-2016, 02:49 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 01-20-2017, 03:04 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Flint - 02-06-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by makzoom01 - 02-14-2017, 11:40 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 03-13-2017, 04:46 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 03-13-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 03-15-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-09-2017, 09:32 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 05-10-2017, 03:08 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-14-2017, 10:45 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 05-15-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-15-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 12-01-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-02-2017, 06:44 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 12-02-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Brian Beuken - 03-04-2018, 02:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 03-05-2018, 04:27 AM

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