HW Acceleration Working
(08-30-2016, 02:13 AM)pfeerick Wrote:
(08-30-2016, 01:51 AM)MarkHaysHarris777 Wrote: ... it really doesn't buy you anything except an experimental kernel , a bloated image , probably performance degradation , and a very limited in-memory accelerator for openGL GLES;  granted, 'some' things will work with it, and if you are 'needing' that 'something' (deliberately left un-mentioned) then by all means go for installing mali... but, you are going to be frustrated if you are not a skilled developer.

That indeed does help Mark... that is the information hasn't really been mentioned, and wouldn't be known generally... but if that is all the Mali binary blob brings with it... what is all the fuss about it being the next best thing since the wheel?

Or is this because in it's current state, not everything is accessible yet? And because it's a binary... any bugs or issues are resolvable as the source code is not available? I thought the whole point of the mali binary (and HW acceleration, as per the thead title!) was that it basically unlocked more of the power of the onboard GPU, making things like video playback, etc, less CPU bound, and let the more capable and power efficient GPU do the work.

preerick, thanks, you are asking the $10,000 dollar question-- and its a good question too !

... see what people are really wanting is hw acceleration, and mali isn't it.  The reason this is not coming forward the way people were expecting has literally legal, technical, and philosophical|political answers.

Longsleep is NOT (and he told me this with his own person) going to package this because it is not open source; period. (I agree with him, by the way, for political and philosophical reasoning). 

Without a proper EULA it (the whole packge) cannot be packed legally and distributed without violating the GPL. Longsleep has noted this many times, and some of us have confirmed that it's true.

And then technically, the experimental kernel with integrated drm (direct rendering manager) (which is never going to be integrated in the main kernel, says longsleep) in combination with the mali blob (even if legalized) is NOT hw acceleration !  Which is why technically longsleep has told everyone from the beginning (its even on his site) if you want video use Android !

So, pfeerick, we are literally between a very hard rock , and a very tight space.  Blush

... which is why many people are feeling bamboozled.
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HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 04-06-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 04-07-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rdPine64 - 04-13-2016, 11:22 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-14-2016, 11:00 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rdPine64 - 04-23-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-19-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 04:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-20-2016, 05:06 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 05:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-20-2016, 01:59 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-20-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 04-21-2016, 01:37 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by moondark - 04-22-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 04-22-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by rahlquist - 04-22-2016, 12:26 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by sirhcjw - 04-26-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by baryluk - 04-26-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 04-27-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fishmech - 05-06-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 05-31-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 05-31-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 05-31-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CybeX - 06-01-2016, 08:47 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Metalazzo - 06-06-2016, 10:16 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-06-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CybeX - 06-10-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-13-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-14-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by pietrondo - 06-06-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Metalazzo - 06-07-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by BringItOn - 06-11-2016, 04:28 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fneves - 06-14-2016, 04:55 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by pietrondo - 06-14-2016, 09:32 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 06-14-2016, 12:22 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-16-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-16-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-17-2016, 10:31 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ViperVi - 06-17-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-17-2016, 05:08 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ViperVi - 06-17-2016, 06:37 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Ghost - 06-20-2016, 04:00 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-20-2016, 11:05 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-21-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-23-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 06-23-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 06-23-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 06-23-2016, 01:23 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Monochrome - 06-23-2016, 01:49 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by extr - 06-23-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by xalius - 06-23-2016, 02:56 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-23-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by barawn - 07-02-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by xalius - 06-24-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Sak3r - 06-24-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-24-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Xabaras76 - 06-24-2016, 04:48 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 02:58 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 06-25-2016, 03:40 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 06-26-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 06-27-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by ssvb - 06-25-2016, 05:30 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 06-25-2016, 07:09 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-27-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 06-28-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 06-28-2016, 07:21 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-01-2016, 02:24 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-02-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-14-2016, 06:59 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-16-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-17-2016, 07:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-03-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-06-2016, 11:09 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by janeku - 07-06-2016, 03:42 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by janeku - 07-07-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by longsleep - 07-07-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Bart333 - 07-11-2016, 10:41 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Luke - 07-11-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 07-11-2016, 08:42 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-16-2016, 06:44 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Boring - 07-17-2016, 03:42 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by adamw - 07-19-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by CaptainZalo - 07-20-2016, 03:49 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by vinodmenon80 - 07-20-2016, 04:04 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nugu53 - 07-27-2016, 01:54 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by Monochrome - 07-29-2016, 10:18 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by adamw - 07-29-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jl_678 - 07-29-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jrullan - 07-29-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by jkmooney - 07-29-2016, 02:40 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by fire219 - 07-29-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by nagmier - 07-30-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Help with HW Acceleration - by tllim - 07-30-2016, 06:23 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-30-2016, 01:03 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Er0l - 07-30-2016, 01:27 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by DefinitelyNotLA - 07-30-2016, 02:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 07-30-2016, 02:41 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 07-30-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-30-2016, 07:33 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Xabaras76 - 07-30-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Zoidiano0 - 07-30-2016, 09:55 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Vidiot - 07-30-2016, 02:50 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 07-30-2016, 11:28 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:18 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 02:19 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 02:41 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 07-31-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 07-31-2016, 03:57 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 07-31-2016, 10:35 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 09:53 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-01-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 11:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 12:46 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-01-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-01-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-02-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rallar8 - 08-02-2016, 12:07 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-03-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rallar8 - 08-03-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-03-2016, 04:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by kflorek46 - 08-03-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HorreC - 08-04-2016, 09:53 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jodybrown99 - 08-04-2016, 02:19 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by piner64 - 08-08-2016, 02:04 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-08-2016, 04:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by shadowheart - 08-11-2016, 04:52 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-11-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-11-2016, 06:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-12-2016, 02:43 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by xalius - 08-12-2016, 02:48 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-12-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-17-2016, 06:32 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by protonic - 08-19-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by rcgalvao - 08-23-2016, 06:59 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-25-2016, 06:12 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jkmooney - 08-25-2016, 06:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by nagmier - 08-25-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-25-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-25-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by nagmier - 08-25-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-25-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 08-26-2016, 04:18 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-26-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-26-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by joe - 08-26-2016, 09:55 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-26-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 08-29-2016, 09:39 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 09:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 02:47 PM
HW Acceleration Working - by Monochrome - 08-29-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-29-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-29-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-29-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-30-2016, 01:37 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 08-30-2016, 02:03 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 02:13 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 08-30-2016, 02:27 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:10 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:50 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 04:47 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 06:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-30-2016, 10:43 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 08-30-2016, 03:44 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by adamw - 08-30-2016, 02:53 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 08-30-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by longsleep - 08-30-2016, 05:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-30-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-30-2016, 11:24 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 07:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by adamw - 08-31-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tkaiser - 08-31-2016, 03:18 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jkmooney - 08-31-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 04:37 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 05:20 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 08-31-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by jrullan - 08-31-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 09-04-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Ghelorn - 09-04-2016, 03:52 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by psychedup - 09-06-2016, 05:12 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 09-07-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pietrondo - 09-10-2016, 05:33 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 09-10-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 09-11-2016, 03:13 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Zoidiano0 - 09-10-2016, 07:08 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 09-10-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HayseedGeek - 09-10-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by FlameCRO - 09-11-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tampadave - 10-04-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 10-04-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 10-04-2016, 08:30 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by HayseedGeek - 10-05-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by ssvb - 10-05-2016, 07:28 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pfeerick - 10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by dkryder - 10-06-2016, 11:01 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 11-26-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by bmarquismarkail - 12-01-2016, 08:05 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 12-05-2016, 12:23 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Terra854 - 12-05-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 12-06-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by tllim - 12-15-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-08-2016, 05:20 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 12-11-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-16-2016, 08:18 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Flint - 12-29-2016, 02:49 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 01-20-2017, 03:04 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Flint - 02-06-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by makzoom01 - 02-14-2017, 11:40 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 03-13-2017, 04:46 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by CaptainZalo - 03-13-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 03-15-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-09-2017, 09:32 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 05-10-2017, 03:08 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-14-2017, 10:45 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 05-15-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Gnx - 05-15-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by pqueiro - 12-01-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Pander - 12-02-2017, 06:44 AM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 12-02-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Brian Beuken - 03-04-2018, 02:54 PM
RE: HW Acceleration Working - by Luke - 03-05-2018, 04:27 AM

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