NAS / OpenMediaVault
#31
thank you for the info
#32
I just wondered if you OMV guys had done a test on the difference between NFS & SMB shares.
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?...5#pid32875

May have to try the OMV image but with a quick and dirty minimal setup SMB really sucks whilst NFS to a ramdisk tops out at priactically 1Gbs max.
#33
(07-14-2017, 03:08 AM)pfeerick Wrote: Note: If you came across this thread because you wanted to find the great OpenMediaVault images for the rock64 that ayufan has slaved over, jump over to https://github.com/ayufan-rock64/linux-b...ses/latest and look for the jessie-openmediavault-rock64 images. But please do come back and read this topic at some point soon, to ensure you get the best possible performance from your setup!  Big Grin

Due to the rather attractive feature set of the rock64 for it's price point (USB3 port, dedicated USB2 ports, Gigabit Ethernet, up to 4GB of RAM, up to 1.5Ghz quad core 64bit processor ), one of the expected uses for it is as a Network Attached Storage device, either running your own custom setup, or perhaps OpenMediaVault (I'd recommend the latter... you can't beat a pre-configured web-gui driven setup that's ready to go out of the box! Wink ). And talking of performance, I can't resist not posting this excerpt from tkaiser as to just how good the rock64 can be when configured right:

tkaiser Wrote:We're talking about +380MB/s on average with UAS. This is close to the maximum what we can get with USB3 SuperSpeed anyway (400MB/s or to quote the specs: "At a 5 Gbps signaling rate with 8b/10b encoding, the raw throughput is 500 MBps. When link flow control, packet framing, and protocol overhead are considered, it is realistic for 400 MBps or more to be delivered to an application.")

But this doesn't mean the road won't be rocky... there are things that can go wrong... from unstable power supplies... to configurations that just won't work... to glitches in the software that result in unpleasant surprises. This post attempts to pull together all of the various bits of information about potential problems you might encounter, and also to link to some of the more interesting bits of info about using the Rock64 as a NAS/OMV device. 

Before you read the performance related stuff, it may be wise to read this thread about what does all this benchmark stuff really mean!

Performance data: Other useful stuff:
  • If you're thinking about NAS / OMV, you're probably thinking about external storage. The best chipsets to use are JMS567, JMS578 or ASM1153E (the latter is only an issue in Seagate disk enclosures due to branded/broken firmware). And the pine64 store stocks a pretty cheap JMS578 USB3 to SATA cable (which is suitable for 3.5" disks with additional 12V/2A PSU, and *possibly* 2.5" drives without a powered USB hub, although one would be strongly recommended). If you want other optoins, similar items under the YEYI and ORICO brands, with the latter also having a full 3.5" disk enclosure relying on the JMS578 chipset. They can be found for as little as US$4.99 on AliExpress at the time of writing, and you might even be able to get them cheaper with the odd coupon that goes around...
  • A lot of other people have used the Odroid XU4 as their NAS/OMV device. And when you consider the specs, it's no wonder why. However, specs are not everything in a NAS/OMV devices, real-world performance is. Configured correctly, and with the right hardware, the rock64 can probably outperform the Odroid XU4, whilst running cooler and consuming less energy. However, please make up your own mind on this... have a look at the threads on the Armbian Forum and the OMV Forum where tkaiser has collected a lot of benchmaking data, and stimulated discussion about real-world performance and usability. 

Potential Issues:
  • USB RAID: In a home use application, it is a plain joke, as it isn't true RAID to start with. Plus, you can get into funky situations where your RAID setup actually shuts itself down due to undervoltage, making it lose and corrupt things all by itself. Someone on the IRC chat put it like "USB RAID (with one USB hub in between -- let some disks do some work --> under-voltage --> hub disappears from bus --> all disks are gone at the same time --> RAID my *aunt*).
  • Undervoltage: This is very common issue in the SBC world, and is because mobile phone / USB chargers are simply not suited for powering SBCs. Save your self some unnecessary pain and suffering, and get the proper rock64 power supply. Its good, cheap, and will prevent random file system corruption, crashes and your rock64 suddenly powering off due to a undervoltage issue. And if you want to use external hard disk drives... you really should use a powered USB hub, as the rock64 will probably be able to power them if used with the correct power supply, but you are simply asking for undervoltage issues or for your external HDD to not power on properly. 
  • MicroSD fakes or poor performance: This issue crops up again, and again, and again. Regardless of if you buy a 'name brand' microSD from your electrical supply store, supermarket, or from a reputable online seller, fakes can be introduced anywhere in the supply chain without their knowledge, and regardless of that, the microSD could be faulty on arrival, or just not a suitable one for SBC applications. My personal recommendation is that you should get yourself a Samsung EVO(+) MicroSD. They have been tested numerous times, and provide excellent performance at a good price. And after you get one, still use something like h2testw (on windows), or F3 for linux and Mac, to check that your microSD is really the size it claims it is, and doesn't have any faults right from day 1.
  • Error messages not quite meaning what you think: For example these logs might make you think that the uas_eh_abort_handler errors are an indication there is is something wrong with the UAS drivers or support on your system. However, in this particular case, the issue was actually an underpower issue for the cradle, and was occurring during some random write tests, as as that is when a disk drive is the most power demanding.

More will be added to this post as time goes on. Please feel free to make suggestions for more links and information to be added.

Hi Guys,

I am new to OMV. However I wanted to use it as following:-
   (1) NAS/CIFS & iSCSI target for homelab. 
   (2) Dual boot OMV with Android 7.1.2 or Ubuntu Mate. (TV Streaming HOOQ or Netflix)

Specially with USB3, i am quite excited to use OMV for iSCSI.

Has anyone tried OMV to work as iSCSI target?
o I tried, but it not working for me on ROCK64.  Sad

Also is there any dual boot image available for OMV with Android 7.1.2 or Ubuntu Mate?  (eMMC)  Huh Huh
o When i am home, i want to use  ROCK 64 for TV streaming using Netflix or HOOQ. And later as OMV device.
o When i am working or testing on my homelab (VMware ESX or OpenStack etc.), i can boot on OMV.

Though there are similar dual boot images available for khadas vim2, it a shame that it comes with USB2.
Hope to see dual boot (EMMC) images for ROCK64.  Heart

Regards,

Rick
#34
you come in here expecting the best of almost all possible setups and you will be frustrated and unhappy. you need to spend at least a week just reading about what is currently realistic to achieve. bottom line is right now there is no way you will get everything you outlined. but, welcome to the forum.
#35
I keep getting "No network interface(s) found" with Stretch OMV 0.7.x... Why?
#36
Anyone got Docker working for OMV Rock64?
#37
(08-28-2018, 07:31 PM)shiningc Wrote: Anyone got Docker working for OMV Rock64?

I have docker runing perfectly on OMV 4 on rock64 with 7 dockers working fine (only one of the dockers needs a restart every 24 hours because it crashes randomly, done with the scheduler inside the same OMV), what problems do you have? any error installing? crashes? or just asking before trying?

Also what network problem do you have? in my case omv apparently cant detect correctly the network card as i see nothing on system-network-interfaces BUT somehow connects correctly as i can see correct ip assigned on diagnostics-dashboard-network interfaces (both ipv4 and ipv6) and i can connect correctly from anywhere in my network including to the dockers and docker-to-docker...also on ssh ifconfig shows correct information...
#38
Hi from Argentina!!!

Tell me what do you think about this...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ACASIS-d...909566.htm
#39
(09-30-2018, 05:05 PM)mandreozzi Wrote: Hi from Argentina!!!

Tell me what do you think about this...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ACASIS-d...909566.htm

Not to be a fan of the brand but the original pine64 one is totally known to work:
https://www.pine64.org/?product=usb-3-0-...-with-uasp
and cheaper since we go thru a hard time, btw im also from Argentina, hola amigo Big Grin


PD: por cierto, mira esto:
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA...151204-_JM
si le agregas lo que vas a pagar de importación hasta te sale mas barato todavía, y es local o sea que cualquier problema tenes a quien reclamar...
#40
(09-30-2018, 05:19 PM)Trash_Can_Man Wrote:
(09-30-2018, 05:05 PM)mandreozzi Wrote: Hi from Argentina!!!

Tell me what do you think about this...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ACASIS-d...909566.htm

Not to be a fan of the brand but the original pine64 one is totally known to work:
https://www.pine64.org/?product=usb-3-0-...-with-uasp
and cheaper since we go thru a hard time, btw im also from Argentina, hola amigo Big Grin


PD: por cierto, mira esto:
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA...151204-_JM
si le agregas lo que vas a pagar de importación hasta te sale mas barato todavía, y es local o sea que cualquier problema tenes a quien reclamar...

Thanks for your answer, but the idea was to present an option to create a RAID through a USB 3.0 port

PD.: a ese vendedor lo conozco cuando le compré la memoria EMMC ya que cuando la quise comprar en el Store estaba agotada.


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