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(05-16-2017, 01:21 PM)mspohr Wrote: Just a note that I was able to burn a DVD using an external Samsung DVD writer on the right side USB port (but not the left side port). Mouse works on either side.
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I'm still getting to know the pinebook, so...

...  the left side port is the OTG port. The left side port is on the main board, the right side port is on the daughter card;  as I understand it,  as yet have not completed a teardown.
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#32
(05-16-2017, 01:11 PM)Wizzard Wrote:
(05-16-2017, 12:48 PM)teckel Wrote: I got a coupon code for the 14" model and was about to order, till I got the shipping price, $31!  So really, it's a $131 laptop.  At that price, there's better hardware and more stable OS out there (like Chromebook).  Looking at Amazon today, with free 2 day shipping, there's $145 Samsung and Asus Chromebooks.

I'm no Pinebook hater, I was planning on getting one and excited when I got the email with coupon.  But $31 shipping on a $100 item is silly.  They should arrange for a US distributor and send them in batch from China and then individually from the US.  Or, offer a slower shipping option for less.  I get shipments from China all the time and never was the price close to $31.

Maybe the $90 & $100 price point wasn't possible, so they padded the shipping price?  In an case, the Pinebook is really a $131 laptop.  Super disappointed.

Anyway, I've got two 14" Pinebook coupons if anyone wants to use them.  Private message me if you do.

Tim

you are right, it is in fact 130 dollars notebook, but what kind of chromebook you can get for that price? can you link some? I am just curious. I still prefer ARM based notebook to same chromebook that only supports that strange and useless Chrome OS.

The real question is why would you compare the Pinebook to a chromebook or a cheap x86 laptop in the first place? in my first post about the Pinebook I wrote that this isnt a replacement laptop for your work or school. This is basically a community-ran project with some really interesting developments and exciting prospects, and because its in our hand AND (much of it) is open-source some very cool things may come of it down the road. Of course its not as stable as Chrome OS! but look how far we (ayufan, longsleep and Xalius) got us in just under 3 weeks!. And many more things are in the pipeline - some of which may or may not work. Thats the nature of this unit and project surrounding it. But I understand that this isnt for everyone, and if all you want to do is word/ google docs and watch youtube then there are better devices for that (some of which may even be cheaper). l have a feeling a lot of people don't quite grasp the nature of this device.

[edit] ... there is no denying however that shipping is a bit on the pricy side ...
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(05-16-2017, 01:53 PM)Luke Wrote: [edit] ... there is no denying however that shipping is a bit on the pricy side ...

Indeed... it may come back to bite pine in the end... but it also needs to be considered what happens when a parcel is lost? Flux (a taiwanese 3d printer firm) also ship all their stuff exclusively through DHL, which drives some of us users up the wall as a $10 part becomes $40+, but at least it ships fast and doesn't get lost... though they have lost more than a few sales because of having DHL as their only shipping option. Then again, we're not talking about a giant firm like Amazon with cutthroat agreements with the domestic postal services! :-O But still I (like most people) want my ARM laptop cheaper! lol :-D
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(05-16-2017, 01:11 PM)Wizzard Wrote: you are right, it is in fact 130 dollars notebook, but what kind of chromebook you can get for that price? can you link some? I am just curious. I still prefer ARM based notebook to same chromebook that only supports that strange and useless Chrome OS.

Most Chromebooks can be wiped and loaded with Linux.  My Acer c720 w/ a Haswell-based Intel that I've had for about 3 years now is running Fedora 25. It's only a dual-core 1.4 Ghz, but it severely kicks the tail out of my Pinebook in performance.  I think I picked it up off Amazon for $180 new.  Probably worth less than $90 now if bought used.

That being said, it's sitting on the counter doing nothing while I write this on my Pinebook..haha!

(05-16-2017, 01:53 PM)Luke Wrote: The real question is why would you compare the Pinebook to a chromebook or a cheap x86 laptop in the first place? in my first post about the Pinebook I wrote that this isnt a replacement laptop for your work or school. This is basically a community-ran project with some really interesting developments and exciting prospects, and because its in our hand AND (much of it) is open-source some very cool things may come of it down the road. Of course its not as stable as Chrome OS! but look how far we (ayufan, longsleep and Xalius) got us in just under 3 weeks!. And many more things are in the pipeline - some of which may or may not work. Thats the nature of this unit and project surrounding it.  But I understand that this isnt for everyone, and if all you want to do is word/ google docs and watch youtube then there are better devices for that (some of which may even be cheaper). l have a feeling a lot of people don't quite grasp the nature of this device.

[edit] ... there is no denying however that shipping is a bit on the pricy side ...

I've honestly been using my 11" Pinebook daily for quite a lot. Its weird how once you become used to the level of performance that you become ok with it.  Your level of expectation is set, and I don't mind that it isn't blazingly fast.  Its very functional and the updates provided by the community have made this thing quite a usable daily driver IMHO.
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#35
(05-16-2017, 01:53 PM)Luke Wrote:
(05-16-2017, 01:11 PM)Wizzard Wrote:
(05-16-2017, 12:48 PM)teckel Wrote: I got a coupon code for the 14" model and was about to order, till I got the shipping price, $31!  So really, it's a $131 laptop.  At that price, there's better hardware and more stable OS out there (like Chromebook).  Looking at Amazon today, with free 2 day shipping, there's $145 Samsung and Asus Chromebooks.

I'm no Pinebook hater, I was planning on getting one and excited when I got the email with coupon.  But $31 shipping on a $100 item is silly.  They should arrange for a US distributor and send them in batch from China and then individually from the US.  Or, offer a slower shipping option for less.  I get shipments from China all the time and never was the price close to $31.

Maybe the $90 & $100 price point wasn't possible, so they padded the shipping price?  In an case, the Pinebook is really a $131 laptop.  Super disappointed.

Anyway, I've got two 14" Pinebook coupons if anyone wants to use them.  Private message me if you do.

Tim

you are right, it is in fact 130 dollars notebook, but what kind of chromebook you can get for that price? can you link some? I am just curious. I still prefer ARM based notebook to same chromebook that only supports that strange and useless Chrome OS.

The real question is why would you compare the Pinebook to a chromebook or a cheap x86 laptop in the first place? in my first post about the Pinebook I wrote that this isnt a replacement laptop for your work or school. This is basically a community-ran project with some really interesting developments and exciting prospects, and because its in our hand AND (much of it) is open-source some very cool things may come of it down the road. Of course its not as stable as Chrome OS! but look how far we (ayufan, longsleep and Xalius) got us in just under 3 weeks!. And many more things are in the pipeline - some of which may or may not work. Thats the nature of this unit and project surrounding it.  But I understand that this isnt for everyone, and if all you want to do is word/ google docs and watch youtube then there are better devices for that (some of which may even be cheaper). l have a feeling a lot of people don't quite grasp the nature of this device.

[edit] ... there is no denying however that shipping is a bit on the pricy side ...
I compare it to a Chromebook because once you consider shipping, the price is VERY similar.  Also, you can run other OS on a Chromebook laptop.  Many people run flavors of Linux or Android on Chromebook laptops.  Then, once you realize the price and capabilities are similar, you then look at the quality and the hardware.  That's when Chromebook's built by companies like Asus or Samsung that have been making hardware for a LONG time make the Pinebook look like a cheap, easily broken toy.

Anyway, for $100 I was going to get the Pinebook.  But now that I see it's actually $131, Chromebooks stand out as the clear way to go. That's why I suggest a cheap shipping option. I've purchased maybe 100 things from China and none were ever lost. And you can get shipping insurance without using DHL.

Tim
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#36
teckel, I understood your point the first time around - that the price of a Chromebook is the same as PB if you account for shipping, and hence the the Pinebook is not competitively priced against mainstream Chromebook brands (which can also be hacked to run Linux)  - but I think you may not understand the point I made. Perhaps the fault is mine for not conveying the point well enough, but I will let it rest.

edit: pagesix1536, yes, I too have gotten accustomed to the performance on the Pinebook, and use it a fair bit on a daily basis. It actually does most daily-routine things really well at this stage already.
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