Linux Build Essentials Research
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(09-23-2016, 03:21 AM)pfeerick Wrote: And as far as stickies about differences between ubuntu and debian...

It's not about Ubuntu vs. Debian or the more general differences. It's about problems of individual OS images provided here (or not -- still nowhere on Pine64 wiki is written "if you want an Ubuntu OS image that does not suck then click here and use longsleep's")

If longsleep would have started with a Debian Jessie image and a 3rd party would have later provided an image with an Ubuntu rootfs then the Debian Jessie image would've shown ~30MB/s when Pine64 is used as a NAS. Since longsleep uses interactive cpufreq governor. If the 3rd party providing an Ubuntu OS image would've chosen also interactive, performance would be the same, if he would've chosen ondemand then performance would suck. It's not about Ubuntu vs. Debian, it's about taking care about details or not.

When looking at the various Ubuntu images available it's even more obvious: Take longsleep's and you don't run into network troubles when you use more than one Pine64, take the one from Pine64 wiki and you do. Why? Since bugs were added manually (forum flooded with complaints about since months!) but no one cares. 

And then for whatever reasons some 3rd parties do something like this: https://www.pine64.pro/getting-started-linux/ -- look at the bottom please. OS images only of historical interest linked there. Nearly 3500 poor souls downloaded 'Ubuntu Base Longsleep (3.10.65 BSP)' dated from April. Nowhere is mentioned that this is outdated like hell, nowhere is written how to update this image (just a small link no one will click on). How many unfortunate users got their OS images from the overhyped pine64.pro site just to realize that 'nothing works'? If one sets up a mirror then please keep the mirror up to date. 

It's unbelievable what's happening here (and there). The various Debian images pine64.pro provide have been downloaded in total 3.377 times. These have been updated in July to latest kernel version. The horribly outdated Ubuntu image from April has been downloaded more often than all Debian images together. But this image should not be available any longer since... it's outdated like hell. For obvious reasons it's only available in OLD directory at the primary location: https://www.stdin.xyz/downloads/people/l...es/ubuntu/ -- it's only available or let's better say 'featured' at pine64.pro. But why? That's just insane!

Anyway: instead of fixing all these issues that are well known since months the Mali dance happens. And if anyone here wants to improve 'Linux feeling' on Pine64+ why not simply make the LCD workadding the missing HDMI resolutions, turning the upper USB port into a real USB port and so on? There's so much real work to do... in fact it's already done (see for example HDMI-CEC ported over from H3 by the great Android guys), it's just not integrated into 'upstream' BSP kernel and all the OS images. And now the funny question: For such processes... does it help to have more or less OS images flying around?


Messages In This Thread
Linux Build Essentials Research - by tkaiser - 09-22-2016, 11:28 PM
RE: Linux Build Essentials Research - by pfeerick - 09-26-2016, 12:30 AM
RE: Chromium? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 09-22-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Chromium? - by tkaiser - 09-23-2016, 12:28 AM
RE: Chromium? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 09-23-2016, 01:31 AM
RE: Chromium? - by tkaiser - 09-23-2016, 02:06 AM
RE: Chromium? - by pfeerick - 09-23-2016, 03:21 AM
RE: Chromium? - by MarkHaysHarris777 - 09-23-2016, 03:42 AM
RE: Chromium? - by tkaiser - 09-23-2016, 04:05 AM

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