Windows 10
#1
Is there any availability of Windows 10 for the Pine 64 board? It would be really interesting to get it up and working with Windows Smile
#2
(07-15-2016, 03:02 AM)Maximum Wrote: Is there any availability of Windows 10 for the Pine 64 board? It would be really interesting to get it up and working with Windows Smile

Are you kidding me?! Exclamation  Do you know this is a ARM processor and not Intel x86 processor?

If you want Windows you're better of purchasing Udoo based board which can run Windows.

I don't think Microsoft is going to even bother seeing how they killed support for Windows RT Surface Tablet

The answer is a very simple "No it won't happen!"
#3
(07-15-2016, 04:30 AM)vinodmenon80 Wrote: Are you kidding me?! Exclamation  Do you know this is a ARM processor and not Intel x86 processor?

Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2 - Microsoft Developers https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot

So it's the IoT Core product, doesn't have a UI, but still, maybe that's what the OP was asking about.
#4
(07-15-2016, 05:03 AM)benpope81 Wrote:
(07-15-2016, 04:30 AM)vinodmenon80 Wrote: Are you kidding me?! Exclamation  Do you know this is a ARM processor and not Intel x86 processor?

Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2 - Microsoft Developers https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot

So it's the IoT Core product, doesn't have a UI, but still, maybe that's what the OP was asking about.

I've played around a little bit with the win 10 iot product for the pi. I could see it doing well on the pine if someone wanted to go that way and MS provided the support. But it is microsoft, and it is windows, and so it brings the usual frustrattions.

I haven't been back to look at it in awhile, but didn't get the sense the MS folks knew what they wanted to do with the product overall, or, were all-in as far as throwing the support behind it.
#5
Since Win10 is not opensource, I doubt that MS will ever compile a binary for PineA64.
#6
(07-15-2016, 07:51 AM)martinayotte Wrote: Since Win10 is not opensource, I doubt that MS will ever compile a binary for PineA64.

I'm not a developer, so may be a stupid question regarding opensource development versus MS..but if they provided an IoT image for the Pi and a few others..what would stop them from doing similar for the Pine?
#7
(07-15-2016, 09:18 AM)DonFL Wrote:
(07-15-2016, 07:51 AM)martinayotte Wrote: Since Win10 is not opensource, I doubt that MS will ever compile a binary for PineA64.

I'm not a developer, so may be a stupid question regarding opensource development versus MS..but if they provided an IoT image for the Pi and a few others..what would stop them from doing similar for the Pine?

Nothing would stop them but they have no public plans or incentive to, there was rumors a desktop version of 10 was in development for arm devices but nothing has materialized.

Windows 10 IOT offers coders nothing that isnt available in Linux, it doesnt even really qualify as a operating system. At best it will be a next step for all those windows XP ATM's that need updating or for someone who really wants to code in visual basic on windows.
#8
You might be able to hack some stuff onto the Pine, but probably nothing native. A VM player with netbook style Win10 home ed image may work, but not without proper hardware support. I looked into hacking the win10 iot, but there is too much missing to get a proper kernel with HAL up. WinPE 10 with Arm binary stack is the closest you can get atm, but that's something you need to extract/salvage and heavily modify or opt for hacking it from a Microsoft Surface tablet.
#9
(07-15-2016, 09:18 AM)DonFL Wrote:
(07-15-2016, 07:51 AM)martinayotte Wrote: Since Win10 is not opensource, I doubt that MS will ever compile a binary for PineA64.

I'm not a developer, so may be a stupid question regarding opensource development versus MS..but if they provided an IoT image for the Pi and a few others..what would stop them from doing similar for the Pine?

Simply because MS won't put too many resource to tweak their drivers to match several ARM offering, so they choose the one that has the biggest market place.
#10
(07-16-2016, 07:46 AM)martinayotte Wrote:
(07-15-2016, 09:18 AM)DonFL Wrote:
(07-15-2016, 07:51 AM)martinayotte Wrote: Since Win10 is not opensource, I doubt that MS will ever compile a binary for PineA64.

I'm not a developer, so may be a stupid question regarding opensource development versus MS..but if they provided an IoT image for the Pi and a few others..what would stop them from doing similar for the Pine?

Simply because MS won't put too many resource to tweak their drivers to match several ARM offering, so they choose the one that has the biggest market place.

Especially with MS, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the insight.


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