Stable build and updates
#1
Hi,

Up until today I have been using the nightly build with the latest updates as my daily driver which in heindsight, probably was not a good idea seeing as I am the kind of user who loves to tinker with absolutely zero knowledge to back it up.

After @jed  in his short but insightful comment "Yep" in my first thread asking how to make my new password change permanent, shared with me the https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php?id=tweaks I have been running the terminal hot with codes adding sid repositories left and right, implementing zram, changing scale-to-fit settings, dark themes, wireguard, open-vpn etc. Shout-out to @RTP for creating the script Wipri https://github.com/righttoprivacy/wipri allowing me to easily randomize my mac adress on boot.

As for as my experience during all of this it has been a hell of a rollercoaster ride. Some of the issues I have encountered have been easy to fix such as not being able to send texts or view my inbox in Chatty, I had the wrong format selected in Region and Language. Others have been slightly harder like when my friend Carl sent me a MMS and I had to unclog my inbox and delete all messages, thanks buddy. And the most annoying has probably been trying to use firefox-esr with the no-script extension involving menus that wont dissapear, menus that never show up and ofcourse menus that dont respond.

What finally took me over the edge was when I had my SO call my phone and the "ringtone" was a constant vibration loud as hell with an accompanying sound seemingly played by a mouse with stagefright. Thus, I have now decided to stop my nightly adventures and move myself to the stable version of 20200905 because I just want a phone that more or less works while not having to worry about my own "coding skills" making a huge mess which is why I am not going to touch anything out of the box.

I have a question in regards to the updates of the stable build. After flashing it to my eMMC and doing an apt update, I see that I have exactly 80 packages that can be upgraded. Now, if I update all of them where will that take me exactly? Because if it is anywhere near the Nightly build I dont have the courage yet to go back in. Should I just not update at all until the next stable version is out or how exactly can I best try to enjoy mobian as a daily driver with low to no tinkering and high stability?

Thanks to all of you for being such a welcoming community even to people like me who have no clue what I am doing and then come here to complain about the software issues lol. You are the best.
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#2
Mobian is rolling release, as it uses the testing and unstable repositories.

The 'stable' releases are largely a misnomer: they should be considered stable as an image to install, not as an in-place release, ala Debian stable.

The moment you upgrade, you are in-step with the nightly build.
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(09-18-2020, 03:38 AM)jed Wrote: Mobian is rolling release, as it uses the testing and unstable repositories.

The 'stable' releases are largely a misnomer: they should be considered stable as an image to install, not as an in-place release, ala Debian stable.

The moment you upgrade, you are in-step with the nightly build.

Well, then im going back in on the nightly from a fresh install. Big Grin  I think what got me on the last run was deleting something called purple-lurch that wouldnt install properly, either that or maybe doing sudo apt autoremove isnt a good idea. Still learning. Thanks for clarifying.
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#4
You're welcome.

I think you'll be hard pressed to truly brick the PinePhone. Failure is just part of the process Wink
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