Play along - create a PinePhone keyboard

[CharlieGordon]

That's 108 keys. That's more than most full size desktop keyboards have. The target number of keys for a device the size of a Pinephone should probably be closer to 50.

But then, you're probably joking and I'm missing the joke.

You are joke not me. Look at old forum https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=7900& and UX50 sony. Old palmtop it have 54 keys (and one rotor, space, hole for rope, sound adjust etc.) and is smalest 2.5 times. No problem add metal 108 keys to pine phone too.
You just can't imagine that there are people using other alphabets :-) This is not racism, but rather a lack of imagination. These people must be very tired. Including me. ;(

I gave you an example of a real device that is comfortable and works. PinePhone sets standards, but these are hacker standards. Not corporate.

That's why people like these products so much. Because hackers do something they always wanted to have. Nobody designs terminal computers today. SSH ? nobody uses this.

I use, and many people need normal keyboard for working trought ssh.

<joke>And what do you suggest? 50 keys? But the computer only distinguishes between zero and one !</joke>

Sorry, I did not mean to offend you.

The UX-50 is narrower than the Pinephone, but deeper. We're talking about a slide-out keyboard here. If we have 85% of the useable area of the Clié we would be lucky. So 50 keys on a Pinephone slide-out seems quite reasonable when looking at 55 on the Clié.


What do you mean by other alphabets'? I've visited Greece and the Soviet Union back in the day.

Greeks by the way use standard US ASCII keyboards with added Greek letters on the key caps and switch between Latin and Greek modes. So I don't think the additional Greek letters would be even that popular in Greece.

When you say real device, do you mean you have used that layout at a size comparable to a Pinephone? I would be really interested to see that.

I like the design of the keyboard you propose, but Pine64 is going to produce one keyboard for the entire world and just from a purely economical point of view I highly doubt they will put their money on a Polish/Czech/Greek hybrid keyboard. Regarding ergonomics: I'm pretty sure I can type faster and more comfortable (even unusual characters) on a keyboard with 50 small keys and additional modifier keys than on one with 108 tiny keys.

Everyone will have to make some compromises, we'll be happy if we get some combining accents with Alt Gr combinations.

Why do you need 108 keys to use SSH? I don't understand that part at all.

Again, sorry if the joke remark offended you.

We cool?