06-14-2020, 02:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2020, 03:00 PM by Peter Gamma.)
I think it is best to test the software first on the Pyloton clue. I have currently no plans to do this, but I m interested on the long term in this project, until my final breath I take in my life.
I m currently using the android app a training tracker. I managed to record .csv data from BLE sensors with a training tracker, which really is a present from heavon to get such raw data in the Garmin .fit file world.
It works best when pairing the sensors fist to the smartpone via BLE in the settings. Then the app has an additional search engine for BLE.
I also discussed with DC Rainmaker about BLE. ANT+ is a well established standard. But almost all ANT+ protocols are also available for BLE:
Here I just copy and paste some infos from the DC Rainmaker s blog:
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/pola...otpod.html
Here’s the easiest way to lookup which products support which Bluetooth profiles:
https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/Listings/Search
Type in something like ‘Polar’, then find a product, and you can open it up and look at all the official device profile names. Though, some of these don’t seem certified well (like this Polar H9 which doesn’t transmit running cadence/speed), but that’s aside from the issue.
https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/Listi...ils/101146
Oh, and here’s most (all?) of the current Bluetooth Smart profiles:
https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/gatt/
Correct, there are a number of ANT+ profiles not in Bluetooth Smart, for example cycling radar or ANT+ lights, or even a draft ANT+ Aero sensor profile.
It’s not so much a case of skill, but rather whether its ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart, it’s a committee of companies that agree upon the exact nuances of how a specification is implemented. Typically profiles take 1-3 years to formalize and ensure they meet the needs of everyone (read: the companies and the specific products they’re trying to make).
Ultimately, the core profiles for a sports watch as I see it are:
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Heart Rate
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Cycling Power
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Running Footpod (Stride sensor)
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Cycling/Speed Sensors (this is technically three different types of sensors: Speed-only, cadence-only, and Speed/Cadence combo).
DC Rainmaker is really t h e expert for bike computers, and his information where very helpful to me personally, although I needs time to work yourself through all that information which I currently don t have.
But DC Rainmakes seems also to be interested in BLE stuff, and I hope I will give further great answers to that subject in the future in his blog.
I put links to my contributions to ANT+ and BLE sensors projects here:
https://github.com/PeterGamma
Questions about Bike computers can also be asked here in DC Rainmakers Blog:
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/01/comp...loton.html
I m currently using the android app a training tracker. I managed to record .csv data from BLE sensors with a training tracker, which really is a present from heavon to get such raw data in the Garmin .fit file world.
It works best when pairing the sensors fist to the smartpone via BLE in the settings. Then the app has an additional search engine for BLE.
I also discussed with DC Rainmaker about BLE. ANT+ is a well established standard. But almost all ANT+ protocols are also available for BLE:
Here I just copy and paste some infos from the DC Rainmaker s blog:
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/pola...otpod.html
Here’s the easiest way to lookup which products support which Bluetooth profiles:
https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/Listings/Search
Type in something like ‘Polar’, then find a product, and you can open it up and look at all the official device profile names. Though, some of these don’t seem certified well (like this Polar H9 which doesn’t transmit running cadence/speed), but that’s aside from the issue.
https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/Listi...ils/101146
Oh, and here’s most (all?) of the current Bluetooth Smart profiles:
https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/gatt/
Correct, there are a number of ANT+ profiles not in Bluetooth Smart, for example cycling radar or ANT+ lights, or even a draft ANT+ Aero sensor profile.
It’s not so much a case of skill, but rather whether its ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart, it’s a committee of companies that agree upon the exact nuances of how a specification is implemented. Typically profiles take 1-3 years to formalize and ensure they meet the needs of everyone (read: the companies and the specific products they’re trying to make).
Ultimately, the core profiles for a sports watch as I see it are:
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Heart Rate
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Cycling Power
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Running Footpod (Stride sensor)
ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart Cycling/Speed Sensors (this is technically three different types of sensors: Speed-only, cadence-only, and Speed/Cadence combo).
DC Rainmaker is really t h e expert for bike computers, and his information where very helpful to me personally, although I needs time to work yourself through all that information which I currently don t have.
But DC Rainmakes seems also to be interested in BLE stuff, and I hope I will give further great answers to that subject in the future in his blog.
I put links to my contributions to ANT+ and BLE sensors projects here:
https://github.com/PeterGamma
Questions about Bike computers can also be asked here in DC Rainmakers Blog:
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/01/comp...loton.html
