10-07-2020, 06:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-07-2020, 09:22 PM by Subsentient.)
(10-07-2020, 04:17 PM)natasha Wrote: I am happy to hear that one or two users are brave enough to use PP as a daily phone.I am using the PinePhone as a daily driver. It's a pain and I have to apologize for its screwups often, but I figured it was good to eat my own dog food for the parts I do work on and for bug reports for the parts I don't.
However, I am with the majority of comments. I bought PP in July, and for the first months, I have been updating the phone with Mobian every 2-4 days. Now it is on my desk, resting there...I do not think I am going to update until a few weeks or months... If I saw any improvement, I would keep updating, playing, etc. but I do not see any movement. We have Daily releases: Some apps work, next day they broke, next they are up again, ... but nothing really changes. At this pace, probably it will never make it. People will get tired before it can make it.
I am with the idea of crowdfunding to hire developers. That is a great idea and might be the only way. I will also contribute as much I can (mainly if I see progress)
Battery life is still terrible, but thankfully I'm a hermit so it doesn't much matter. It is a serious problem when I do go out for extended times though.
I don't think a dev for a specific OS is a good idea right now. I think what we need right now is infrastructure, e.g. more kernel development which is used by almost all PinePhone OSes, and a distro-agnostic calls and messages app. I'm very, very slowly working on one in GTK3 and Rust. I don't have a lot of free time.
We also need more work on ModemManager, because it seems to dislike the quirks of the Quectel modem, and it seems to be the cause of calls becoming uncontrollable but still active (can't hang up, window disappears). I get the feeling ModemManager isn't widely used for anything but mobile broadband stuff, so the code paths for phone and SMS aren't well tested.
Bless his soul, megi has done a lot in the kernel, more than anyone else, (we'd really be boned without him), but it's clear he's only one guy working in his free time, and it's not enough. He's also not using it as a daily driver, which of course would shield him from the regressions that seem to sprout up like weeds with every commit.
We really need a full-time kernel developer. Not someone for Sailfish or Mobian or UBports, but someone to work on the linux kernel, along with bits and bobs in other troublesome system components.
(10-07-2020, 05:57 AM)jed Wrote: As I understand it, all of the PinePhone specific development is done by volunteers. Instead of rubbishing how quickly those volunteers are progressing the software in their free time, you could contribute.Thank you for parroting the same unhelpful garbage I've seen written in other threads I lurked on that dared to question the speed of development. I'm not criticizing the contributors, and if you read my post you'd know I have already touched on the issue of why it might be taking time. As far as contributing, I already have and I am. This is not a normal or acceptable pace of progress for a project of PinePhone's stature.
