Arm acquisition
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Quote:Open your eyes and open your brain.
right, even the language as that sectarians use. "Wouldn't you want to talk with us about our savior "Linux" and "RISCV"? Open your brain, close your 4ss". Big Grin f&cking come on!
Quote:Linus started something that was irrelevant and absolutely out of reality.
why should I care? what relation this sugary tale has to the biggest HW merger, which is the topic of this "extremely" useful thread? Ah, right, "witnesses" don't care what people around talk about, they have the only one topic in their minds - delusional fantasies about their obsession, "freedumb", in this case. let me be honest with you - I am sick of this nonsense now.
Quote:Look where Linux is now.
let me see. cheapo, underdeveloped, messy mediocrity used for outsourcing and offloading spendings by big companies? at the expense of quality. faceless, inefficient web servers, and awful crapdroid eating up resources af and still being a useless sh1t.
Quote:Linux is just one example and RISC-V can become another example.
"can" be is not "is". and even if it becomes a thing, it won't be what you fantasizers imagine - sweet dreams "open" thingy, it will be stuffed with what their makers see the need to put over there. full of "closed" "system controllers/guards/engines/security/crypto/blobs/firmware" etc. just for their benefit and what they think - their clients. needless to say, both of those couldn't care less about your pink unicorn freedom.

(09-17-2020, 10:23 AM)Arwen Wrote: You do realize that Pine64 is in the process of releasing a product with a RISC-V processor?
It's due in the next few months.

True, it's using an embedded SoC, and not a very powerful one. (But, this won't be the first Pine64 product with a low power, low performance embedded SoC, see PineTime. To be clear, PineTime is NOT RISC-V.)

Here is the link;

Wiki - Pinecil

Some of the people stating they are considering RISC-V, (Western Digital), are ones that can then avoid processor royalty costs. Plus, benefit from tayloring the instruction set for their application. Like a hard drive controller SoC that has a sector checksum accelerator built in.

I personally want to see open source hardware like Ethernet controller chips. With TCP/SCTP/UDP off-load engines, perhaps using RISC-V.

But yes, RISC-V CPUs / SoCs that are equiv to a Raspberry Pi are currently vapor ware.
You asked me and then anwered it at the end.
Quote:But yes, RISC-V CPUs / SoCs that are equiv to a Raspberry Pi are currently vapor ware.

I didn't talk about deeply embedded sh1t, it's a totally different category. and if all these riscv evangelists, jumping nervously with their links to convince me how "I don't get what vaporware is" can't distinguish between desktop/smartphone grade application processor and disk drive intetnal controller, then my participation in this timewasting party is even more questionable.

and no, no way, there will be "open" Ethernet controllers, TCP/UDP/html/javascript offloaders, ever. no matter what CPU architecture is inside, people will be keeping their valuable secrets. because it's their success, they must be insane to open it to competitors. it doesn't work this way.
ANT - my hobby OS for x86 and ARM.


Messages In This Thread
Arm acquisition - by bastafari - 09-13-2020, 08:38 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by lot378 - 09-14-2020, 04:04 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by jiyong - 09-14-2020, 05:20 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by _hg_ - 09-15-2020, 12:36 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by CharlieGordon - 09-15-2020, 03:25 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by ab1jx - 09-15-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by z4v4l - 09-15-2020, 05:08 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by jiyong - 09-16-2020, 06:48 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by z4v4l - 09-16-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by jiyong - 09-17-2020, 04:16 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by Arwen - 09-17-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by _hg_ - 09-16-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by _hg_ - 09-16-2020, 08:40 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by as400 - 09-17-2020, 12:39 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by z4v4l - 09-17-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by jiyong - 09-18-2020, 05:22 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by _hg_ - 09-17-2020, 06:15 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by lot378 - 09-17-2020, 08:16 PM
RE: Arm acquisition - by IoSer - 09-18-2020, 01:20 AM
RE: Arm acquisition - by grumpyoldfart - 10-01-2020, 02:06 AM

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