(01-15-2020, 09:09 PM)Jeremiah Cornelius Wrote: Speakers? That's REALLY interesting.

(01-12-2020, 01:33 AM)gillham Wrote:

(01-11-2020, 08:36 PM)jazzmans Wrote: Hey all!
I've had my Pinebook Pro for 24 hours now,  and  I must say, I'm very happy with this device.  It ain't perfect, but it sure is nice!  
I missed the first batch of beta machines window  by a few hours

I have a weird debian apt problem,  when I initiate anything,  it sits at 'connecting to' for up to ten minutes, without doing anything, then suddenly works, and downloads everything without delays or problems.  It's almost as if the os is waiting for 'something' before finally processing whatever apt install I've initiated.  This problem occurs with mr fixits update script, and never did get any further then 'checking for dependencies'

firefox doesn't work (yet)  I'm assuming it's because of the lack of mr fixit script update.


I did the keyboard/trackpad firmware update without issue.

one other problem I've discovered;

There are two different instructions for changing the rock user to user name of choice on the wiki,  and I can say,  the first truncated instructions do not work properly, and do somewhat b0rk the system,   maybe this could be edited? (I'm not qualified enough on the workings of the PBP to edit anything on wiki yet,  I'm gonna baby step it)

I've  only charged the battery once,  and haven't messed with the usb C display yet,  I'm going to work on getting to know the basics of this device first.

Congratulations to the team who designed and manufactured this device,  it's a fantastic little device, I hope it'll serve me well for a long, long time.

It might be trying to use IPv6 which can cause a large delay.  Something like this will disable it for apt*:

Code:

$ echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4

You might want to run 'netstat' in another terminal window while apt-get or an updater is active to see what's going on tcp socket wise.

Code:

$ netstat -tn
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
tcp        0      0 1.2.3.4:1234 5.6.7.8:5678      ESTABLISHED
tcp6       0    280 fe80::1:2:3::22 fe80::4:5:6:22 ESTABLISHED

Basically you should normally see a connection from your local ip address to a foreign address that would be a debian repo or similar, probably on port 80, maybe on 443.  An active / open / working connection is ESTABLISHED as above, but a connection that is being attempted would say SYN_SENT for example.
If your apt-get or script is trying to use IPv6 it would be pretty clear  as you would see an IPv6 style address (like second line above with ':' in addresses) and SYN_SENT under the State field.  Adding the config file to apt.conf.d to force IPv4 should fix that and make connections quick.

(01-18-2020, 01:41 AM)jazzmans Wrote: Does anyone know how to tell the wm to start XFCE4 instead of mate by default?  There doesn't  seem to be a GUI option to choose desktops.  (not a fan of gnome, never have been) XFCE4 is fully installed, including goodies.

(01-18-2020, 08:49 AM)rleasle Wrote:

(01-18-2020, 01:41 AM)jazzmans Wrote: Does anyone know how to tell the wm to start XFCE4 instead of mate by default?  There doesn't  seem to be a GUI option to choose desktops.  (not a fan of gnome, never have been) XFCE4 is fully installed, including goodies.

Select "LightDM GTK+ Greeter"  (which is the login screen) from the settings menu (or settings manager). Under the "Panel" tab is a list of Indicators. Make sure that the "Sessions menu" is included and add it if not.  Next time you log in, check in the upper right corner of the screen. There should be a tiny MATE icon (probably next to the power icon). Click on that and you should see a choice of DE to launch. Select XFCE before you log in and you should be set. And it should remember your choice the next time, so you only have to set it once.

• Shell is great. Beats the paints off my $400 Lenovo G50.
  
• Lightweight, yet feels sturdy.
  
• Screen is awesome for the price point.
  
• Performance is the same as my A8-6410 Lenovo G50. Which is good for an ARM device.
  
• Cut off switches are great.
  
• Rubber feet are good.
  
• Ease to open is good.
  

• Touchpad is awful. As a friend of mine says, touchpad are bad, bad touchpad are abysmal. This one is the later.
  
• No real buttons on track pad.
  
• Power button is in a terrible spot. Tried to hit backspace twice, only to shut down.
  
• No lid switch. I would have liked the monitor to turn off with I close the laptop.
  

• I have done little typing on the device yet. But the keyboard feels cardboard-y. Although beats the pants off most chiclet laptops like my G50. Might even be better than my IBM Thinkpad. I like the stroke. I use IBM Model M’s for work. So I am not normal.
  
• Weight is back heavy, so a light touch to the front tips it backwards.
  
• Monitor hinges do not allow for the screen to lay flat (near flat). Not good for being around a toddler with a computer addiction.
  
• ANSI keyboard, backspace seems too small, function keys seem to be too wide... I would have liked PgUp, PgDown, End, Home keys squeezed in the function row.
  
• Charging cable is short. I can’t charge it on my desk.
  
• Charging LED light is by the power plug, PITA to view depending on circumstance.
  
• Some monitor bleed.
  
• No quick change battery.
  
• Speakers are meh.
  

• I would pay extra to get rid of the touchpad and have only a pointing stick with 3 buttons.
  
• Turn power button into a physical switch.