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RE: Pinebook Pro? - Luke - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:02 PM)Kochise Wrote: Please consider the following :

since the Pinebook Pro is rather target at a power user audience, I bet those people are able to open the case and put by themselves a battery in.

1- use a rather standard battery

2- send Pinebook Pro without battery
3- point a local reseller of such battery
4- or send the battery into another package

1 - There is no such thing as a standard battery
2 - warranty nightmare and one of the reasons we don't sell DIY kits
3 - There are no resellers in parts of the world (e.g. EU)
4 - How does that make it easier? the legal requirement for high-risk goods shipping states 'lithium ion batteries or devices containing lithium ion batteries(...)' ; so shipping a battery from China wouldn't be simple or cheap either.


RE: Pinebook Pro? - RMJ250 - 05-25-2019

Hey Luke, any more updates/videos to tease us with? ?


RE: Pinebook Pro? - Luke - 05-26-2019

(05-25-2019, 10:15 PM)RMJ250 Wrote: Hey Luke, any more updates/videos to tease us with? ?

Yes. A June update is due in some two weeks.


RE: Pinebook Pro? - crypt17 - 05-28-2019

(05-26-2019, 05:09 AM)Luke Wrote:
(05-25-2019, 10:15 PM)RMJ250 Wrote: Hey Luke, any more updates/videos to tease us with? ?

Yes. A June update is due in some two weeks.

am looking forward to seeing the progress


RE: Pinebook Pro? - Kochise - 05-31-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:52 PM)Luke Wrote: 1 - There is no such thing as a standard battery
2 - warranty nightmare and one of the reasons we don't sell DIY kits
3 - There are no resellers in parts of the world (e.g. EU)
4 - How does that make it easier? the legal requirement for high-risk goods shipping states 'lithium ion batteries or devices containing lithium ion batteries(...)' ; so shipping a battery from China wouldn't be simple or cheap either.

Yeah I know batteries comes in all sort of power and shape. I'd be thinking about an encased, rectangular shaped and sized that could be live fitted into a slot like a pcmcia card. Perhaps a bit larger for enough reserve, but you get the idea...

http://www.kokpower.com/kok-power-222wh-3-2v-60ah-lithium-ion-prismatic-battery-cell-for-car-ev-solar_p136.html
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/battery-supplier-flat-thin-lipo-battery_60562487989.html

https://www.bigupbattery.com/Widefly-10-B106-100201-DT-350-Battery-p/batt-008851.htm
https://www.bigupbattery.com/Fluke-116-066-700-Calibrator-Battery-p/batt-009560.htm
https://www.pdbattery.com/prismatic-lifepo4-battery.html
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/122721


RE: Pinebook Pro? - brent.thierens - 05-31-2019

(05-31-2019, 06:18 AM)Kochise Wrote:
(05-24-2019, 03:52 PM)Luke Wrote: 1 - There is no such thing as a standard battery
2 - warranty nightmare and one of the reasons we don't sell DIY kits
3 - There are no resellers in parts of the world (e.g. EU)
4 - How does that make it easier? the legal requirement for high-risk goods shipping states 'lithium ion batteries or devices containing lithium ion batteries(...)' ; so shipping a battery from China wouldn't be simple or cheap either.

Yeah I know batteries comes in all sort of power and shape. I'd be thinking about an encased, rectangular shaped and sized that could be live fitted into a slot like a pcmcia card. Perhaps a bit larger for enough reserve, but you get the idea...

http://www.kokpower.com/kok-power-222wh-3-2v-60ah-lithium-ion-prismatic-battery-cell-for-car-ev-solar_p136.html
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/battery-supplier-flat-thin-lipo-battery_60562487989.html

https://www.bigupbattery.com/Widefly-10-B106-100201-DT-350-Battery-p/batt-008851.htm
https://www.bigupbattery.com/Fluke-116-066-700-Calibrator-Battery-p/batt-009560.htm
https://www.pdbattery.com/prismatic-lifepo4-battery.html
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/122721

While I like the idea of a removable battery so we can fit a bigger one, the first link of 222Wh is maybe a bit overkill  Smile Furthermore, this cell won't fit in the case. The other cells are way too small, or are really bare cells which you can't expect the buyer to fit themselves. Handling bare lipo cells can be dangerous for users who don't know what they're doing, so you would need a case where + and - can't be switched. Given the dimensions of the Pinebook Pro, it is physically too thin to provide a swappable battery


RE: Pinebook Pro? - Kochise - 05-31-2019

I was meaning more like the last link that resemble the Nokia's batteries, with a larger form factor, of course.


RE: Pinebook Pro? - zaius - 06-01-2019

I don't think anyone has said the battery won't be user replaceable, if one were so inclined.

However, don't manufacturers generally check each laptop before shipping it? I don't think that would be possible if the battery were missing.


RE: Pinebook Pro? - Luke - 06-01-2019

(06-01-2019, 02:25 PM)zaius Wrote: I don't think anyone has said the battery won't be user replaceable, if one were so inclined.

However, don't manufacturers generally check each laptop before shipping it?  I don't think that would be possible if the battery were missing.

Yes, each laptop gets booted at the factory for qc and diagnostics, and the battery gets partly charged.


RE: Pinebook Pro? - chithanh - 06-04-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:52 PM)Luke Wrote:
(01-30-2019, 01:05 PM)Jeff115 Wrote: 1- use a rather standard battery
1 - There is no such thing as a standard battery
I think the 18650 cell is the closest to a standard battery there is.

(05-31-2019, 07:14 AM)brent.thierens Wrote: The other cells are way too small, or are really bare cells which you can't expect the buyer to fit themselves. Handling bare lipo cells can be dangerous for users who don't know what they're doing, so you would need a case where + and - can't be switched.
You can buy bare USB portable chargers that you have to install 18650 cells yourself. I don't see why it is impossible for notebooks. But I agree that it is not for the average user, and careful handling is needed. And of course there is a problem in case of warranty claims, or if the notebook catches on fire...
(05-31-2019, 07:14 AM)brent.thierens Wrote: Given the dimensions of the Pinebook Pro, it is physically too thin to provide a swappable battery
That the Pinebook Pro is too thin for that sort of thing is probably true.  I have seen some older netbooks that use batteries which contain 18650 or comparable cells, mounted between the hinges of the display (e.g. IdeaPad S12).