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RE: Pinebook Pro? - doc1623 - 04-15-2019
I am really looking forward to the pro, the phone, and the tablet.
I know you guys can't give any hard dates, but would it be impertinent to ask the expected order of these releases?
My guess, Pro first
. Course my complete ignorace really helped solidify that pick!Thanks for making cool stuff
secondly and more boringly, but for making open source stuff!Half bluefaced Mel Gibson just sounded off with the call
RE: Pinebook Pro? - DoMiNeLa10 - 04-20-2019
The Pinebook Pro looks pretty interesting, and I have a couple of questions about it:
- Does the SOC it comes with have mainline Linux support so users won't be stuck with outdated kernels provided by the manufacturer?
- Will it have (possibly optional) active cooling so it can sustain clocks under prolonged load?
- Will it be possible to upgrade RAM on it? (4 GiB doesn't sound like much)
- Will it be possible to use an m.2 SSD as a boot drive?
- Since there's discussion of multiple keyboard layouts, would it be feasible to create one with a pointing stick?
I'm having some trouble navigating this forum, and searching through threads is pretty hard, so I'm sorry if any of the questions I've asked is redundant.
RE: Pinebook Pro? - PakoSt - 04-20-2019
(04-20-2019, 02:28 PM)ainline DoMiNeLa10 Wrote: The Pinebook Pro looks pretty interesting, and I have a couple of questions about it:
- Does the SOC it comes with have mainline Linux support so users won't be stuck with outdated kernels provided by the manufacturer?
- Will it have (possibly optional) active cooling so it can sustain clocks under prolonged load?
- Will it be possible to upgrade RAM on it? (4 GiB doesn't sound like much)
- Will it be possible to use an m.2 SSD as a boot drive?
- Since there's discussion of multiple keyboard layouts, would it be feasible to create one with a pointing stick?
I'm having some trouble navigating this forum, and searching through threads is pretty hard, so I'm sorry if any of the questions I've asked is redundant.
I'm just a random person who happened to learn about the Pinebook Pro, so I'm not the best person to reply but I will do my best
So:
- SoC support - pretty good. GPU is the biggest hurdle and this particular Mali got some very welcomed patches in mainline kernel. Since October (? need to check exact timeline and links) there were some very significant boost. It should be almost identical to RockPro64 so you can easily track for specific issues. No idea about trackpad and other laptop specific features but usually they get fixed relatively easy (like trackpad and ignoring the touch when typing, hybernation sleep, etc.). You can follow this blog for Panfrost development for Mali specifically and it's a great read!
- I don't think active cooling will be of any target as passive cooling is the main focus. The bottom cover is metal so there should be enough headroom. Maybe it could be an interesting DIY project to add a fan though, personally, I don't see the benefit. ARM SoCs are pretty efficient and one of the biggest pros should be that you don't have to care about dust and sound from the active cooling. If you are worried about sustained performance, I would look into the RockPro64 forum threads to see what are the results with and without some sort of heatsink. That should be a very good indication at what level of sustained performance we could expect.
- The SoC doesn't support more than 4GB of RAM. There was a link somewhere in the previous pages. If your aim isn't to run a few virtual machines, I wouldn't worry much about it.
- Need to check the progress for boot on M.2 drive. Probably it won't be possible when the device comes out but some time afterward (no specific timeline given there). I was away for the past two weeks so I haven't looked at the progress.
- I'm not sure if you are talking about a track point (like the Lenovo ThinkPad T series). Given the price and initial target audience, I have my doubts that it be feasible. A solid keyboard and touchpad that works well ought to be the focus for launch. Track points are very specific input devices which don't have a large target audience and the usual implementations do require extra buttons on top of the trackpad. I doubt they will become available unless there is enough demand for the second or third gen of Pinebook Pro.
I hope I didn't mess up some of the information
RE: Pinebook Pro? - Luke - 04-24-2019
You'll be able to take a look at the Pinebook Pro (and Pinephone) dev kits this Sunday.
RE: Pinebook Pro? - frank-zappa - 04-25-2019
I believe forum members will get a free eMMC upgrade.
Will it come installed? Or will it be sent with the machine for the user to install themselves?
RE: Pinebook Pro? - scruffypants - 04-25-2019
Is there a way to set an email notification for when the pinebook pro is available for purchase? Or do I just have to check the forums and the shop every day?
RE: Pinebook Pro? - brent.thierens - 04-26-2019
On the main page of pine64 you can subscribe to the news letter. I guess it will be in there once it is available
RE: Pinebook Pro? - Luke - 04-26-2019
It will still be a while. relax.
RE: Pinebook Pro? - PakoSt - 04-26-2019
I would love to see the Android SDK tools with the Flutter example project running on a connected Android device during the stream. While scary sounding, for actual app development it takes pretty much a code editor of choice (VS Code works great) with a connected device/emulator/simulator (desktop embedding still in progress with a few stand out project).
But I would imagine this would require compiling the Android build tools from source for the Pinebook Pro, which could easily go out of hand for just a demo. I did find most of the packages for Ubuntu ARM but not Manjaro ARM - without any hardware, it's a bit hit or miss to figure those stuff out. Maybe someone with RockPro64 has already tried this but didn't have the time or figure out it isn't worth it to post results
What's the plan for the stream? Would we see WebGL with Chromium or Firefox running on the newer hardware iteration of the Pinebook Pro? Something from PlayCanvas would be interesting and easy to use as a comparison.
RE: Pinebook Pro? - diego-treitos - 04-28-2019
Is there any information about the weight and battery life of the pinebook pro?