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RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - tllim - 03-09-2018

(03-06-2018, 04:59 AM)LINUX_YY Wrote: wanna order RockPro64... when will be released and where to order?

We have push the Rockpro64 schedule to April time frame incorporating one new feature. When Rockpro64 available, to order, we will publish at PINE64 store.


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - angelscream09 - 03-09-2018

(03-09-2018, 09:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-06-2018, 04:59 AM)LINUX_YY Wrote: wanna order RockPro64... when will be released and where to order?

We have push the Rockpro64 schedule to April time frame incorporating one new feature. When Rockpro64 available, to order, we will publish at PINE64 store.
What new feature?

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RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - tllim - 03-09-2018

(02-24-2018, 01:10 AM)Tigger Wrote: What USB version is used to implement the Type-C port, or is its sole purpose to provide the DP signal ?
If USB is implemented behind the Type-C port does using it, with USB devices, sacrifice any of the other USB ports ?
Is USB Power Delivery implemented at all behind the type-C port?

The USB type C port for both USB 3.0 function and also DP signal. No other USB port been sacrificed. There is no USB power delivery behind the type-C port due to Rockpro64 require 12V supply due to PCIe bus.


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - tllim - 03-09-2018

(03-09-2018, 09:54 PM)angelscream09 Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-06-2018, 04:59 AM)LINUX_YY Wrote: wanna order RockPro64... when will be released and where to order?

We have push the Rockpro64 schedule to April time frame incorporating one new feature. When Rockpro64 available, to order, we will publish at PINE64 store.
What new feature?

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You will find out on April.


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - angelscream09 - 03-09-2018

(03-09-2018, 09:56 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:54 PM)angelscream09 Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-06-2018, 04:59 AM)LINUX_YY Wrote: wanna order RockPro64... when will be released and where to order?

We have push the Rockpro64 schedule to April time frame incorporating one new feature. When Rockpro64 available, to order, we will publish at PINE64 store.
What new feature?

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You will find out on April.
Is there still no plan for an audio DAC add on for the RockPro?

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RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - tllim - 03-09-2018

(03-09-2018, 09:57 PM)angelscream09 Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:56 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:54 PM)angelscream09 Wrote:
(03-09-2018, 09:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(03-06-2018, 04:59 AM)LINUX_YY Wrote: wanna order RockPro64... when will be released and where to order?

We have push the Rockpro64 schedule to April time frame incorporating one new feature. When Rockpro64 available, to order, we will publish at PINE64 store.
What new feature?

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You will find out on April.
Is there still no plan for an audio DAC add on for the RockPro?

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Focus on the Rockpro64 board release first.


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - yours_david - 03-12-2018

(02-21-2018, 11:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(02-21-2018, 03:56 PM)Nelly Wrote: What are the improvements of rockpro64 over rock64? Worth upgrading if just using as media player or no?

Rockpro64 has more powerful CPU and GPU. However, for media player and NAS area, just stay with ROCK64.

Hi TL, I'm very happy about my Rock64 NAS setup equipped with a 2-bay USB 3.0 dock and 2 HDDs sitting on it. However, the bandwidth is bottleneck by single USB 3.0 which the speed will split in half when 2 HDDs using at the same time. 

Q is, will Pine H64 equipped with mini PCIe to 2 sata card performs better for a 2 bay nas use, like supporting 2 native sata and their speed under Openmediavault? Is it worthy to update H64 from Rock 64? Will either RockPro64 or H64 support one or two SATA or USB expansion cards in long run? 

Much appreciated for your read and answer. 

Cheers,
David


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - stuartiannaylor - 03-12-2018

(03-12-2018, 07:44 AM)yours_david Wrote:
(02-21-2018, 11:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(02-21-2018, 03:56 PM)Nelly Wrote: What are the improvements of rockpro64 over rock64? Worth upgrading if just using as media player or no?

Rockpro64 has more powerful CPU and GPU. However, for media player and NAS area, just stay with ROCK64.

Hi TL, I'm very happy about my Rock64 NAS setup equipped with a 2-bay USB 3.0 dock and 2 HDDs sitting on it. However, the bandwidth is bottleneck by single USB 3.0 which the speed will split in half when 2 HDDs using at the same time. 

Q is, will Pine H64 equipped with mini PCIe to 2 sata card performs better for a 2 bay nas use, like supporting 2 native sata and their speed under Openmediavault? Is it worthy to update H64 from Rock 64? Will either RockPro64 or H64 support one or two SATA or USB expansion cards in long run? 

Much appreciated for your read and answer. 

Cheers,
David

Its 4 lanes so that is 4x500MB/s raw transfer which bottleneck 4x fast SSD but would be fine with x2.
I have forgot what the encoding overhead for Sata and PCI-e lane is but some mirky mem says 20% so buy 400MB/s SSDs and your on a 4 way winner with a 4 lane x4 pci-e sata card I guess.

Thats unusual it is 20% http://www.tested.com/tech/457440-theoretical-vs-actual-bandwidth-pci-express-and-thunderbolt/


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - Tigger - 03-15-2018

(03-09-2018, 09:55 PM)tllim Wrote: The USB type C port for both USB 3.0 function and also DP signal. No other USB port been sacrificed. There is no USB power delivery behind the type-C port due to Rockpro64 require 12V supply due to PCIe bus.
Thanks. Too bad about the power delivery. I had hoped to supply the board with power through the type-c port. Now it’s another USB port to me.


RE: RockPro64 and Pine H64 Discussion Thread - yours_david - 03-18-2018

(03-12-2018, 04:20 PM)stuartiannaylor Wrote:
(03-12-2018, 07:44 AM)yours_david Wrote:
(02-21-2018, 11:53 PM)tllim Wrote:
(02-21-2018, 03:56 PM)Nelly Wrote: What are the improvements of rockpro64 over rock64? Worth upgrading if just using as media player or no?

Rockpro64 has more powerful CPU and GPU. However, for media player and NAS area, just stay with ROCK64.

Hi TL, I'm very happy about my Rock64 NAS setup equipped with a 2-bay USB 3.0 dock and 2 HDDs sitting on it. However, the bandwidth is bottleneck by single USB 3.0 which the speed will split in half when 2 HDDs using at the same time. 

Q is, will Pine H64 equipped with mini PCIe to 2 sata card performs better for a 2 bay nas use, like supporting 2 native sata and their speed under Openmediavault? Is it worthy to update H64 from Rock 64? Will either RockPro64 or H64 support one or two SATA or USB expansion cards in long run? 

Much appreciated for your read and answer. 

Cheers,
David

Its 4 lanes so that is 4x500MB/s raw transfer which bottleneck 4x fast SSD but would be fine with x2.
I have forgot what the encoding overhead for Sata and PCI-e lane is but some mirky mem says 20% so buy 400MB/s SSDs and your on a 4 way winner with a 4 lane x4 pci-e sata card I guess.

Thats unusual it is 20% http://www.tested.com/tech/457440-theoretical-vs-actual-bandwidth-pci-express-and-thunderbolt/

Very interesting read and very clear from theatrical part. Thank you. 

The bandwidth are enough for 2 HDDs or maybe 4 bays running raid 10 or free of any raid. Expecting really hardware testing based on H64 testing. 

Further consideration on driver part is, wishing H64 support an imexpansive mini pcie to 2 sata adapter, see adapter link https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-PCIe-PCI-Express-to-2-Ports-SATA-3-0-III-6Gb-s-Single-Expansion-Chip-Card/252584913725?epid=502424833&hash=item3acf3beb3d:g:7uUAAOSwqfNXoFK0 

Or using Rock 64 equiped with pcie to 4 channel 4 port sata to form a 4 HDDs array. See adapter link: https://www.amazon.com/Vantec-Channel-4-Port-6Gbps-UGT-ST622/dp/B002PX9BX2/ref=sr_1_6?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1521432139&sr=8-6&keywords=4%2Bport%2Bsata%2Bpcie&th=1

It has to be cheap since these day 4 bay nas has a very compatible price, e.g. QNAP TS-431P 4 bay nas. Wish my hope can come true.