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PineBook Pro 2.2 revision: Wishlist for the hardware issue fixes
#31
I've added one newly discovered issue (headphones detection circuit) to the first post in this thread.  Would you like me to add all other known PineBook Pro hardware issues into the list in the first post, so we end up with a clear summary?

Edit: More importantly, here's a question for @tllim  and @Luke : Are you going to review this wishlist and incorporate some (or hopefully all) of the hardware bugfixes and improvements into the next revision of PineBook Pro's PCB?  If not, please, let us know, so we can stop spending our time on debugging, discovering and documenting hardware issues.  Thank you.
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#32
(01-17-2021, 09:28 AM)dsimic Wrote: I've added one newly discovered issue (headphones detection circuit) to the first post in this thread.  Would you like me to add all other known PineBook Pro hardware issues into the list in the first post, so we end up with a clear summary?

Edit: More importantly, here's a question for @tllim  and @Luke : Are you going to review this wishlist and incorporate some (or hopefully all) of the hardware bugfixes and improvements into the next revision of PineBook Pro's PCB?  If not, please, let us know, so we can stop spending our time on debugging, discovering and documenting hardware issues.  Thank you.
I do think that it'd be useful to add all issues to the first post so there's a convenient list.

I also second your question for @tllim and @Luke: do you plan to review this list at some point?
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#33
I am more than willing to make the list complete and keep it updated.  However, that would make sense only if the Pine64 team confirms their interest in actually resolving those issues and, optionally, implementing some of the new features we've also pointed out.

Unfortunately, we've seen absolutely no response from the Pine64 team so far, which makes any form of the list pretty much pointless. :/  I've even tried to contact tllim and Luke through private messages, but I got no response.
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#34
@dsimic - actually you're doing great job with your list here. Even if p64 does not want to recognize it. Everyone should be aware of what she/he is buying. So there are no disappointments later.

My suggestions to the list:

1. Underpowered USB ports (even 2.5" external hard drive does not work - eg. for backup purposes).
2. Underpowered PCIe - not every nvme drive can be used. Only those that are not DRAM cached.
3. Disastrous Wifi card - painfully slow and very bad reception.
4. Coil whine in most of Pinebook Pros.


After one year of trying to use PBP as a daily I came to the conclusion that it is impossible in my case. It's a great machine to learn and get to know ARM ecosystem but it's only a toy. Nothing more. Mainly because it's faulty by design.
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#35
I use Pinebook Pro as a main notebook for my work. I can recommend following improvements:
- Please make the touchpad better (it is the disadvantage of highest priority)
- It could be better to make the plastic a little bit thicker under and over usb slot.
- In general the case could be from metall (maybe it is possible to offer 2 options - from plastic and from metall) I would pay much more money for high quality case from metall.
- Right now the design of the case is like from Macbook where they make an optical ilusion that the body is thin. I think that for 'professional users' it is better to make the body thickness everywhere like at the beginning (where the monitor is mounted). And after the free space inside is possible to use for some diy boards or extensions.

One of the best think is that it is possible to charge from USB 5V 3A. Please keep this possibility!
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#36
(02-22-2021, 03:28 AM)as400 Wrote: @dsimic - actually you're doing great job with your list here. Even if p64 does not want to recognize it. Everyone should be aware of what she/he is buying. So there are no disappointments later.

Thank you very much, but it would be way better to have the Pine64 team recognize the issues, or even just become involved in the discussions.  There's no pressure, but they should be standing behind their products, which includes the PineBook Pro.

(02-22-2021, 03:28 AM)as400 Wrote: 1. Underpowered USB ports (even 2.5" external hard drive does not work - eg. for backup purposes).
2. Underpowered PCIe - not every nvme drive can be used. Only those that are not DRAM cached.

Those two issues stem from the overall lack of input power for the PineBook Pro.  Actually, I asked the Pine64 team to send me one PineBook Pro for the purpose of trying out a few experimental hardware modifications that should allow higher power draw from the laptop's USB Type-C power input.  Unfortunately, I've got not response from the Pine64 team so far.

(02-22-2021, 03:28 AM)as400 Wrote: 4. Coil whine in most of Pinebook Pros.

I would also add some weird crackling/popping noises coming out of the speakers while no music playback is active.  I've been unable to correlate those sounds to anything else happening on the laptop, except for the moment of powering off the laptop, which always produces a crackle/pop.

(02-22-2021, 03:28 AM)as400 Wrote: After one year of trying to use PBP as a daily I came to the conclusion that it is impossible in my case. It's a great machine to learn and get to know ARM ecosystem but it's only a toy. Nothing more. Mainly because it's faulty by design.

For example, the battery charging IC is so finicky that it has a mind of its own when it comes to stopping the battery charging.  Quite frankly, that's simply unacceptable.

(02-24-2021, 01:25 AM)esud Wrote: One of the best think is that it is possible to charge from USB 5V 3A. Please keep this possibility!

Could you, please, elaborate that a bit further?
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#37
(03-02-2021, 08:32 AM)dsimic Wrote: Thank you very much, but it would be way better to have the Pine64 team recognize the issues, or even just become involved in the discussions.  There's no pressure, but they should be standing behind their products, which includes the PineBook Pro.

Absolutely. These problems are known for more than a year. So now the situation looks like they are knowingly and deliberately sell product that is faulty by design.

Sad to say, but this is the way big corporations behave. They just don't react at all.

(02-22-2021, 03:28 AM)dsimic Wrote: I would also add some weird crackling/popping noises coming out of the speakers while no music playback is active.  I've been unable to correlate those sounds to anything else happening on the laptop, except for the moment of powering off the laptop, which always produces a crackle/pop.

Yes, I had this too.
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