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RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - dzid26 - 07-09-2022
There is this one USB-C PD battery pack that I like because it doesn't have cables.
It's Veger 20W mini powerbank from Amazon.
It negotiates 12V, and so it reaches 15W . It also nicely fast charges a smartphone.
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RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - biketool - 07-10-2022
(07-09-2022, 03:40 PM)dzid26 Wrote: There is this one USB-C PD battery pack that I like because it doesn't have cables.
It's Veger 20W mini powerbank from Amazon.
It negotiates 12V, and so it reaches 15W . It also nicely fast charges a smartphone.
For my use cases I am not sure I would want that exact setup, but thanks for that lead!
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - zer0sig - 07-17-2022
I wonder if it might make more sense to get one of those big power stations with AC output and just use one of the PINEPOWER USB-C PD devices or similar? It's not super light but get a decent USB-C PD cable and you could pack it into a backpack and use it for a decent while without charging.
I just ordered one of these, supposed to do 300W(600 peak watts) and has a notably larger battery than a small power pack. I think the amps can be sustained for up to 4 meters (with only USB2.0 speeds but the current will carry) so you could operate it from a pack if you couldn't seat it on the table.
The model is a Jackery Explorer 300 - there were discounts for prime day. Could post a link but I don't want to come across as some kind of shill.
Good luck!
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - biketool - 07-19-2022
(07-17-2022, 02:14 PM)zer0sig Wrote: I wonder if it might make more sense to get one of those big power stations with AC output and just use one of the PINEPOWER USB-C PD devices or similar? It's not super light but get a decent USB-C PD cable and you could pack it into a backpack and use it for a decent while without charging.
I just ordered one of these, supposed to do 300W(600 peak watts) and has a notably larger battery than a small power pack. I think the amps can be sustained for up to 4 meters (with only USB2.0 speeds but the current will carry) so you could operate it from a pack if you couldn't seat it on the table.
The model is a Jackery Explorer 300 - there were discounts for prime day. Could post a link but I don't want to come across as some kind of shill.
Good luck!
That Jackery battery seems interesting though a bit big for my plan to have a power bank in my portable tech tool box. At that size I would also want a solar power charge controller; though I would probably want that and the 220v inverter as plug-ins to keep the size smaller should I want a larger portable system and that would again lead me to a DIY solution I think. That big I would probably want to move on and build an add-on to a removable(I have not investigated electrical personal locomotion battery standards at all) E-bicycle battery cartridge.
The 600watts is pretty extreme over a USB cable, maxxed at 20v that is 30amps though those tiny USB-C cable wires and connectors!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - Flux-Sniffer - 08-02-2022
I'm using a Baseus 65W 30,000mAh power bank. It was pricey, but lasts for ages. It heats the Pinecil to 340c in about 12 seconds using the red Pincil silicone USB C cable.
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - biketool - 08-04-2022
(08-02-2022, 10:13 PM)Flux-Sniffer Wrote: I'm using a Baseus 65W 30,000mAh power bank. It was pricey, but lasts for ages. It heats the Pinecil to 340c in about 12 seconds using the red Pincil silicone USB C cable.
Several IP5328 boards have arrived, I have some 18650 cells so I will decide how best to construct a Pinecil compatible battery pod. It is unfortunate that this process of selection is so fraught, though at least there are some tested off-the-shelf options vs bring-your-own cells options.
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - Flux-Sniffer - 08-16-2022
I am thinking about using a 40V 5AH lawn tool battery. Connect this 200/400W buck convertor to it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804006119819.html and mount this fan onto the buck convertor heat sink https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256801789237445.html This would give me a very strong 12V - 24V output. And then maybe a Baseus 100W or 160W car charger for ports. I keep worrying about the size of this beast, and if I really have any use for it.
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - zer0sig - 08-31-2022
(07-19-2022, 04:13 AM)biketool Wrote: That Jackery battery seems interesting though a bit big for my plan to have a power bank in my portable tech tool box. At that size I would also want a solar power charge controller; though I would probably want that and the 220v inverter as plug-ins to keep the size smaller should I want a larger portable system and that would again lead me to a DIY solution I think. That big I would probably want to move on and build an add-on to a removable(I have not investigated electrical personal locomotion battery standards at all) E-bicycle battery cartridge.
The 600watts is pretty extreme over a USB cable, maxxed at 20v that is 30amps though those tiny USB-C cable wires and connectors!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
That's 600W peak over a NEMA 5-15 standard AC plug. 60W USB-C PD.
RE: Real/Usable USB-C battery pods for Pinecil? (9-12v mode minimum) - River - 11-05-2022
Warning, this is Not a Pinecil, this was not made by Pine64 . This is a fake copy. See warning in Pinecil Wiki https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinecil#Authenticity
Also see in the Github firmware IronOS warning about it https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/discussions/1257
Avoid QC, look at Power Delivery Protocol (PD), do not get anything that delivers less than 3amps (more is ok/good).
Pinecil Wiki has an entire section on Power https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinecil#Power_Supplies_and_Watts
and links to Community Chat where the very active and knowledgeable volunteers hang out.
(07-09-2022, 03:40 PM)dzid26 Wrote: There is this one USB-C PD battery pack that I like because it doesn't have cables.
It's Veger 20W mini powerbank from Amazon.
It negotiates 12V, and so it reaches 15W . It also nicely fast charges a smartphone.