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RE: SSD for PBP - MrTester - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:13 PM)zaius Wrote:(08-06-2019, 06:35 AM)thequux Wrote: The Intel 660p seems to be that unicorn; cheap and 0.1W according to https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/149403/intel-ssd-660p-series-2-0tb-m-2-80mm-pcie-3-0-x4-3d2-qlc.html . That power consumption seems shockingly low, so who knows how accurate it really is, but one would *think* that Intel knows how to measure it properly. Following this thread, and reviewing the datasheets with limited data (avg R/W in what Atemp, R/W load? ). My guesses we should have a "Best Bet" suggestions and all the early adopters run tests and/or extracts from Smart . Ill keep my eye on the price for Intel® SSD 660p @ $36 USD for 128 and $54 USD for 256 not bad for a give it a shot hardware. https://www.amazon.com/Intel-760P-256GB-80mm-PCIe/dp/B078VBGSVL?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B078VBL3T9&th=1 RE: SSD for PBP - chithanh - 08-07-2019 According to Anandtech and Tom's Hardware, the Intel 660p consumes around 2.3 W average under load, so should be good. Idle power (with ASPM) is 0.01 W which is very good. Active idle power (without ASPM) is 0.67 W which is mediocre. Wake-up time from idle is 55,000 µs which is pretty bad. So how good it is depends on whether PCIe ASPM will work on the Pinebook Pro, I haven't seen anything on that yet. If ASPM doesn't work yet or the wake-up latency is too high for your use case, then consider the Corsair MP510. (2.9 W load, 0.05 W idle, 0.43 W active idle, 1,900 µs wake-up latency). https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-force-mp510-ssd,5848-2.html https://www.anandtech.com/show/13438/the-corsair-force-mp510-ssd-review/8 RE: SSD for PBP - multi.flexi - 08-07-2019 What about this one? https://www.kingston.com/us/ssd/a2000-nvme-pcie-ssd?Capacity=500GB - .0032W Idle / .08W Avg / 1.7W (MAX) Read / 4.5W (MAX) Write - up to 2,200/2,000MB/s - 180,000/200,000 IOPS RE: SSD for PBP - MrTester - 08-07-2019 That brings to thought. Has any of the development guys done any thermal test/ load test on the PBP? It might be a worth while endeavor, I would be happy thermocouple this puppy up with a NVMe SSD of choice and see what load tests stress the system to, so we all have some reference data to work from. RE: SSD for PBP - zaius - 08-07-2019 (08-06-2019, 02:57 PM)MrTester Wrote: Following this thread, and reviewing the datasheets with limited data (avg R/W in what Atemp, R/W load? ). My guesses we should have a "Best Bet" suggestions and all the early adopters run tests and/or extracts from Smart . I was thinking something similar. In order to have better comparisons, the drives should be the same size. I propose 256GB. That is two times the size of the eMMC in this first batch, and four times the size of the eMMC in later batches. 256GB should be enough space for most purposes. Also, smaller drives use less power than larger drives. (Participants who need to carry around massive files could take advantage of USB Type-C and use a portable external drive such as the Samsung T5.) I'm still looking to see if there is a Linux application similar to MobileMark. If anyone knows, please post about it here. Also, still waiting to get better physical specifications, such as maximum height. I am not a mechanical engineer. Although I'm thinking that the PBP doesn't have a fan and air is an insulator, so the SSD would use something such as a silicone pad to heatsink it. Then again, I could be wrong about that. RE: SSD for PBP - hmuller - 08-07-2019 I have the 128GB version of the following, installed in my desktop: https://www.microcenter.com/product/505058/512gb-ssd-3d-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-gen-3-x2-internal-solid-state-drive-(512g) The 512GB version is currently selling for $49 USD. This is the Supported Power States shown with smartctl: Supported Power States St Op Max Active Idle RL RT WL WT Ent_Lat Ex_Lat 0 + 3.00W - - 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 + 2.00W - - 1 1 1 1 0 0 2 + 2.00W - - 2 2 2 2 0 0 3 - 0.1000W - - 3 3 3 3 1000 1000 4 - 0.0050W - - 4 4 4 4 400000 90000 No need to put a thermocouple on this one. nvme smart-log provides the sensor temperature of the drive. EDIT: idling, this drive measured 38 deg C. Active (writing video), it measured 45 deg C. RE: SSD for PBP - MrTester - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 10:19 AM)zaius Wrote:(08-06-2019, 02:57 PM)MrTester Wrote: Following this thread, and reviewing the datasheets with limited data (avg R/W in what Atemp, R/W load? ). My guesses we should have a "Best Bet" suggestions and all the early adopters run tests and/or extracts from Smart . Not a mechanical engineer, but working along side of them when running their UL/ INSTU tests IRL, we would have to see the surface mating of the SSD to the case (if any) that may permit us to somewhat heat sink and aid in the performance of the drive. A silicone pad may help if there is any gaping. Ill see if I have some laying around, or can get some samples. I think I intentionally destroyed all the ones I had during recent tests. I can easily get us some thermal imaging, and with stabilization during benchmarking also get us the max TC points of the drive and other critical compontry. (08-07-2019, 10:28 AM)hmuller Wrote: I have the 128GB version of the following, installed in my desktop: Good to know this is a value reported in nvme smart-log. RE: SSD for PBP - User 12559 - 08-10-2019 (07-27-2019, 03:43 PM)zaius Wrote: I just looked at a bunch of drives, and so far, most manufacturers don't include power consumption in the specifications The reviews at tomshardware.com include power usage under different scenarios. RE: SSD for PBP - Dreamwalker - 08-10-2019 I suppose another thing is what can the board sustain transfer wise? no point in spending on a drive that transfers over that. RE: SSD for PBP - fire219 - 08-10-2019 (08-10-2019, 06:53 AM)Dreamwalker Wrote: I suppose another thing is what can the board sustain transfer wise? no point in spending on a drive that transfers over that. Somewhere around 1.5GB/s. I went into a bit more detail as to why over here, if you're curious. |